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Subject: (Interview). Subtitle: Eugenie Clark. Timecode In: 00:00:19. Timecode out: 00:59:47. Notes: Ichthyology. Equipment Notes: Stereo=1; Dual-Channel Mono. NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS Show: National Geographic Radio Expeditions- Eugenie Clark Log of DAT #: 1 Date:3/8/99 ng = not good ok = okay g = good vg = very good EC 00:00:19¿lives under the ice AC 00:00:21 And how big is it? 00:00:26 EC 00:00:27 Well, it gets up to 18 ft.- 20 ft. What¿s peculiar is that I¿ve read about this for years, I¿ve read that they have a parasite on each eye and so this parasite.. AC 00:00:50 Does this parasite infect any other creatures? 00:00:55 EC 00:00:56 Not that we know of¿ and another one of my students is the parasitologist working on it. The problem right now because they collected them and he¿s studying them and it¿s very recent work. AC 00:01:10 Could you just sit back¿00:01:27 are you still at work making the observations about sharks, the Greenland shark? 00:01:39 EC 00:01:41 I didn¿t do the Greenland shark, my son did. AC 00:01:44 No, but you said that you had gotten the first photographs. 00:01:47 EC 00:01:48 Oh, yes. that must have been around 8 yrs., 7 yrs. ago in Saruga (?) Bay when we went out there with National Geographic Television and we did a story on diving in submersibles to depths in Saruga Bay and there this big Greenland shark came along and really wowed the people and I thought first when I saw the film and studied the close-up of it that it was string or something , a scratch in the film but it was coming right out of the eye and there were two of them. And it was my daughter actually who looked at it and said ¿Mom isn¿t that that Copapod parasite that they talk about?¿ And it was. AC 00:02:43 It seems to me it¿s amazing that two creatures could develop such a relationship. The parasites attack the eye of the shark¿00:03:01 EC 00:03:01 Something like that. That was in a recent just last year, that came out in National Geographic, beautiful (AC:How¿) pictures they got. AC 00:03:13 How would that be beneficial to the shark? 00:03:26 EC 00:03:27 Well, if it lures other little fishes in to the face of the shark living under an ice pack where there are not too many things around in the darkness. If they see two glints, fish could be attracted to it like any kind of bioluminescence in the sea. They might go into investigate it and if the go into investigate it and if they go to look at the eye they are right in front of the sharks huge mouth. AC 00:03:53 When you saw the shark you were in a submarine?00:03:57 EC 00:03:58 Yes, uh-huh, I¿ve seen it in a submersible. The best pictures were taken by Ralph White, a pilot of the submersible and he saw it a couple of thousand feet down. AC 00:04:11 Really, 2,000 ft¿ 00:04:14 EC 00:04:15 Well, it was as big as the submersible so it kind of scared everybody inside but they got great video. We made 10 dives in Saruga Bay, the deepest bay in Japan, it gets down to over 7,000 feet. And we brought back some wonderful footage, and pictures, Emery Christoff was involved in that. I¿ve done a lot of work with Emery Christoff and David Doubilet those are the two Geographic photographers that I¿ve worked with all these years. AC 00:04:49 Were you looking specifically for sharks? 00:04:58 EC 00:04:58 I suspected that there would be lots of sharks there. AC 00:05:03 Were you expecting to find a Greenland shark? 00:05:05 EC 00:05:06 Yes, they are known to be in that range. It¿s a controversy whether the Greenland Shark and the Pacific Sleeper are the same species or not but they both have the parasites on the eyes and no other shark is known to do that. They have, they are listed as two different species but nobody can really tell what¿s the difference. AC 00:05:29 Not eve... (Notes truncated)
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