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Subject 1: (Interview). Subtitle: John M. Camp. Timecode In: 00:01:52. Timecode out: 00:43:51. Notes: Archaeology student orientation at Ancient Agora of Athens. Subject 2: (Interview). Subtitle: John K. Papadopoulos. Timecode In: 00:58:35. Timecode out: 01:13:07. Notes: Archaeology of whales and sea monsters in ancient Greece. Equipment Notes: Decoded MS Stereo. NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS Show: Greece - Olympics Log of DAT #: 6 Engineer: Josh Rogosin Date: June 14, 2004 Camp = John Camp JP = John K. Papadopoulos CJ = Chris Joyce JG = Jessica Goldstein DAT 6 0:56 JR ok it is June, 7 at 9:30am¿at orientation. This is MS stereo. 1:31 Ambi, birds chirping loud and clear, people chatter in the background. 1:46 Ambi, bell rings and voice from orientation begins. (off mic) 3:11 Orientation continues, a saw starts up in the background. 3:45 Train goes by. 5:45 Walking begins. Group goes into the 6:27 walking upstairs. Saw is loud and people chatter. 7:01 Chattering becomes louder. 7:50 walking continue. Women chatter and whisper, (out of breath). 8:58 orientation speech continues. Explains to group not to challenge the guards outside of the excavation site. 12:55 walking and chatter continue. Feet shuffle. In tour room? 14:30 orientation continues, instructions about guards, etc. 22:56 orientation continues. 28:55 orientation continues, instruction about housing 30:38 a train goes by. Followed by another train. 31:46 Bell rings along with laughter. 40:20 a student (?) says ¿holy smokes!¿ Tour continues into the storage area (records room). 42:24 CAMP - ¿tomorrow we¿ll start at 7 o¿clock. If as many of you come as early to dig, as come for pizza and beer, then we¿re going to have a very productive season.¿ (laughter) 57:28 JR we¿re going to talk to John and his whalebone. This is MS stereo. Walking¿and chatter¿ 58: 42 JP ok, now there it is. It doesn¿t look like much you see that weird bone? CJ Yeah, let me have a look from this side. From here you can tell, well it could be a stone in the dark. 58:57 JP but you see the cotting. This is what it looks like. (papers rumble) this is the whale in 1934 where it was found, and this is a lot of the pottery that goes with it, and there it is. CJ oh from there you can see it differently, the bone, right. 59:18 JP and it¿s the scapula of an immature fin whale. CJ but until the time you saw it, nobody knew that? JP No and this whale, see all of the material here comes from the same deposit. And it dates it the early, middle geometric period. So, it¿s roughly 900-850 BC. And I was going through all of this material in this deposit and then I came across that, and in the notebook, it was known as the whale with the strange bone artifact. That¿s when I finally saw that, and that¿s, and you can sort of see the scratch marks on it and that¿s when I went (gasp¿) it has to be writing! And this is a period, as you said, it¿s a dark age there¿s no writing. So the (mice?) in the ends, had this early salaprick (sp) script, Linear A and linear B, the micenees (sp) had linear B and the Meanians (sp) had linear A. And linear B is the first Greek we have, but it¿s written in these strange symbols. And then from about 1200-1100 BC down to about 800 there is no writing. We just don¿t have any, and then sometime in the 9th or 8th century BC we get the first writing and this is right at this time, this could be really exciting. So we had it pulled out and of course it wasn¿t writing it was scratch marks, but then I thought to myself, why, why would you have scratch marks on the surface and why do you have cutting there? That goes all the way through it. CJ It¿s a rectangular cutting, so obviously made by humans. JP so it was clearly used for a function. And then we pull... (Notes truncated)
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