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Subject 1: (Interview). Subtitle: Mark Creighton, Elizabeth Arnold. Timecode In: 00:03:04. Timecode out: 00:42:08. Notes: Crane operation discussion. Subject 2: (Sound Effects). Subtitle: Crane sounds. Timecode In: 00:27:35. Timecode out: 00:31:42. Subject 3: (Interview). Subtitle: David Shaw, Rick Meinzer. Timecode In: 00:43:04. Timecode out: 00:46:52. Notes: Forest research discussion with Elizabeth Arnold. Subject 4: (Interview). Subtitle: David Shaw, Rick Meinzer. Timecode In: 00:51:56. Timecode out: 01:01:36. Notes: Forest research discussion with Elizabeth Arnold. Subject 5: (Interview). Subtitle: David Shaw, Rick Meinzer. Timecode In: 01:16:01. Timecode out: 01:32:56. Notes: Forest research discussion with Elizabeth Arnold. Equipment Notes: Decoded MS stereo; Sonosax SXM 2 preamp. NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS Show: USFS 100th anniversary Engineer: Leo DelAguila Date: June 11-13, 2005 DAT #2 LD- Leo DelAguila EA- Elizabeth Arnold RM- Rick Meinzer (spelling?) US Forest Service Pacific Northwest DS- David Shaw Research Scientist at Crane MC- Mark Creighton (crane operator) CC- Chuck Cambell, assistant 0:03 LD- Ok, this is Elizabeth Climbing 0:15 Ambi, breathing, gear, metal climbing noises. Out. 0:44 EA- How many of these things do I have to climb anyway? 1:00- Louder Metal ambi to 1:16 1:40 Ambi Ends for climbing 1:49 LD- testing 2:00 Stepping noises again, DS talking in background with EA, MC and CC 2:33 MC It's kind of a shuffle thing getting everybody in here. 3:02 EA- There's the hatch, THUNK (FX grate drops at 3:02/03) Cool place you have up here. It's a little hard coming to work in the morning isn't it? 3:17 MC- Not every morning, when we run the crane 3:21 EA- Cuz there's no other way to get up than that ladder right? 3:24 MC- That's it, 300 Rungs. I get that question quite a bit, How many rungs is it? Three hundred rungs. 3:30 EA- and then when you're going up and down you're probably thinking, oh is this number 10, is this number 11? 3:34 MC- Doesn't matter til you get right here. 3:38 EA- and I don't' know hwo many times I bumped my head on the cross bar there, it's like how many times do I have to do that until I realize that hey, there's a cross bar there? 3:45 MC- Ping, Ping, I heard you comin' up. 3:50 EA- What a cool spot though. 3:53 MC- Yeah, for tower crane operation¿Sweet. Beats the heck out of being in the city. 3:58 EA- Did you do construction? 4:00 MC- Oh yeah, for years. 4:02 EA- This is a way different thing isn't it. 4:05 MC- You bet it is. 4:06 EA- This is like the ultimate tree house or something. 4:09 MC- Yeah 4:10 EA- SO how long have you been doing it? 4:13 MC- This crane in particular, ten years, since the beginning. 4:20 EA- Well that explains why you were able to just drop us down into these pockets ..How do you do that? 4:30 MC- Of course you know the stand, and we've got a digital read out that tells you exactly where the hook is. And when we do like a study we'll go to whatever trees we want to go to and we will write down our coordinates, like say there will be ten different spots on a tree where every time we go we have our trolley, like for instance it's 10.1 meters out and our hook height is 3.1 and then our slewing or asmith? Is 2.1 degrees so we write that down and that's the spot. SO when we're setting up our study we can just start in and I can punch it, or I don't have to punch it in but I just look at my data sheet, hit my coordinates, and take em right to that and puts the branch right back in their hands again. 5:30 EA- I mean you were doing that with us, but how are you able to know where the holes are between the trees. 5:36 MC- Well I can see, we can see. You gotta have pretty good depth perception. Because a lot of people will be up here and they'll think, oh you're gonna run... (Notes truncated)