ML161021
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Subject 1: (Interview). Subtitle: Liz Bennett, Michael Sullivan. Timecode In: 00:17:00. Timecode out: 00:44:20. Notes: Wildlife trade discussion. Subject 2: (Interview). Subtitle: Mark Lloyd, Michael Sullivan. Timecode In: 00:50:37. Timecode out: 00:55:07. Notes: Wildlife trade discussion. Subject 3: (Interview). Subtitle: Chris R. Shepard, Michael Sullivan. Timecode In: 00:58:27. Timecode out: 01:36:38. Notes: Wildlife trade discussion. Equipment Notes: Decoded MS stereo. Show: Thailand Wildlife Trade Log of DAT #4, ILEA Interviews Recorded in MS Engineer: Charles Thompson Date: September 9, 2003 ng=not good ok=okay g=good vg=very good 1:08 Chuck saying: today's date is Tuesday, September 9 (even though DAT is labeled as Sept 8) 1:44 Ambi starts: g car engines, walkie talkie sounds, very dense sounding bird and insect sounds in background. Entrance into ILEA from street, inside to office areas, into break room. 2:49 beginning of ambi: ok engine idling quietly, birds, voices. 3:44 trying ambi again: g cars passing by quietly, voice over speaker in background, sound of ppl working inside building, walls. ok - channel disappears 4:55 pick up ambi again now with both channels: voices echoing on walls inside, engines, birds, footsteps in hallway, sound of objects on floor. g 6:18 elevator ambi g 6:36 elevator opening FX g voices, open hall/room ambi, footsteps squeaking, glasses/plates clinking, water, dish washing ambi, Thai voices g 8:10 stop down mark 8:30 vg lots of feet squeaking, footsteps coming off elevator and coming into ILEA, adjusting, shuffling, English voices in background, coughing. 9:54 coffee break room ambi: Thai conversation, laughter, objects being moved around, esply silverware, plates, 10:39 chair scooting back FX, footsteps. vg esply 11:19 until 11:51 11:58 same ambi, different location. vg 15:23 ambi loses voices as they quiet down, exit room. 15:38 ambi over. ... 17:00 MS: When I think of the wldlf trade, I think of Africa. I suspect most ppl do. I don't think about Asia. How big is the prob here, and why should we care? LB: the prob here is enormous. 1 of the reasons that we hear more about the Africa trade is partly, certainly w/in EU it's closer to home. But also bc w/in AF it effects species like great apes, gorillas, chimps, is very evocative. 1 other reason: the wave of hunting, trade, trade-related extinctions and knocking wldlf pops down hit Asia a long time b4 it hit AF. Now it means the trade partic in parts of indo-china is small species, not so evocative bc the big ones have gone. If you go into a market in Nern Laos, what you see in the market is bats, frogs, small passerine [sp] birds. bc they're basically all that's left and the big things have gone. MS: they've been hunted out. LB: That's right. 18:18 MS: Which would suggest that the prob here is far greater than in AF. LB: It is greater, far more extreme, been going on for a lot longer, which means that a lot of the species have already been knocked way back down. And so if you take Viet for ex, Viet w/in the last 50 yrs, 12 species of lrg anmls have either gone extinct or on the verge bc of hunting and wldlf trade. Incls species that are so rare now that most ppl haven't even heard of them like the cupre. It includes things like the elds [sp] deer, species such as the batagere [sp] turtle. They've basically all become extinct w/in the last 50 yrs bc of hunting and wldlf trade. And other countries are following suite, partic indo-china first, but the wave of wldlf trade is pushing way down into malay, indo, thru the whole region. And it's the most enormous prob and it's the single greatest threat to wldlf in this part of the world w/out any doubt. We're clearly seeing fairly major local extinctions now as a result of wldlf trade w/in Asia. 19:31... (Notes truncated)
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- 4 Mar 2010 - David McCartt
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- 4 Mar 2010 - David McCartt
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- 4 Mar 2010 - David McCartt