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Subject 1: (Interview). Subtitle: Julia Carabias. Timecode In: 00:00:04. Timecode out: 00:29:00. Notes: Monarch Butterfly. Subject 2: (Interview). Subtitle: Guillermo Castilleja. Timecode In: 00:29:53. Timecode out: 00:38:52. Notes: Monarch Butterfly. Equipment Notes: Stereo=1; Split track; Neumann KMR 81; Shure SM85. Interview with Julia Carabias (JC) January 14, 1999 3:03 JB - how imp are the monarch butterflies to mexicans? 3:08 JC - we as mexicans feel very lucky and very proud to be a part of this special and unique phenomenon which is the migrations of the monarch butterfly - the uniqueness is not some much bc this a species that is rare or danger of extinction - not at all. This is a butterfy that has a range of distribution - very very wide in the whole continent - even it is found in Central America. The importance is that part of the populations of the monarch butterfly¿has a process of migration and it has chosen Mexico as part of its life cycle, particularly the moments when it more difficult for the life - which is winter. And he has chosen mexico to live during those months. So, it - for mexico it is a big commitment to protect the monarch butterfly. And it is also a symbol that represent the interchange between 3 countries - north america with canada and the united states and it has also been utilized as a symbol of cultural interchange, trade interchange and we are having a lot of contact with my colleagues form the US and Canada - particularly yesterday we had a mtg with the minister of canada, christina stuart , we were talking about this for a while. This is going to be apart of our bilateral agenda in the bi-national mtg in otawa in feburary. 5:17 This has been always a part of the programs with interchange with minister bruce babbit of the united states and this is always been part of the tri-lateral relations with the countries, so as far as natural phenomena this is something very imp that we have to make our best efforts in the 3 countries to protect - that this doesn¿t disappear - the migration phenomenas - even if the populations of butterflies will always exist bc they are very resistant to all kind of changes. 5:57 5:55 JB - so I understand there are 5 sanctuaries that combined add up to 161 kilometers - of preserved areas. What are the different pressures right now that are being brought to bear on these diff sanctuaries btwn the diff interests that would like to see them either expanded or done away with entirely. I mean if you could explain the ejiditarios, biologists, all the other forces that have an interest in the sanctuaries. 6:32 6:33 JC - well, part of the habitats of the monarch is in mexico is the important temperate woods that exist in michoacan and mexico state - this is just part of the habitat. The rest of the habitat is just very diff conditions during the route in the states and in canada. When the butterfly arrives to m exico it is all the clusters arrives to some of the areas very narrow places that these areas are inhabited by a lot of population - there is perhaps in the region more than half millions basins living here. This has been a process for a long long time. This is not new. However the increase in population and the demographic explosion in the area it is a problem. It is also problem the levels of standard of living that people have here is very poor people and for a long time in the past where having very little dialogue, the decree of the reserves 20 yrs ago was not discussed and was not in consensus with the local population and that action caused irritation in its moment- uuummm- 8:16 we are very conscience that protecting any area cannot be apart from the participation of the local people. In fact all our recent decrees of reserves have long processes of discussion first after having all the technical studies we go through the ... (Notes truncated)
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- 24 Jun 2005 - Ben Brotman
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- 24 Jun 2005 - Ben Brotman