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Subject 1: (Environmental Recording). Subtitle: Birds, walking ambi. Timecode In: 00:00:59. Timecode out: 00:06:03. Subject 2: (Interview). Subtitle: Aboriginal man. Timecode In: 00:09:25. Timecode out: 00:41:07. Notes: Tiwi historical acccounts; Australia; Aboriginal Tiwi historical acccounts. Subject 3: (Interview). Subtitle: Clementine; Aboriginal woman. Timecode In: 00:41:07. Timecode out: 01:33:14. Notes: Tiwi historical acccounts; Australia; Aboriginal Tiwi historical acccounts. Equipment Notes: Stereo=1; Stereo. NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS Show: Australia - Clementine, a Tiwi Woman Log of DAT #: I-1 Engineer: Manoli Wetherell Date: March 2000 ng = not good ok = okay g = good vg = very good March 2000 Australia Interview with CLEMENTINE (a Tiwi woman) 41:53 AC: We're doing stories about Australia and we wanted to do stories about the aboriginal people here as well. So, we've come and asked people to tell us ... Clem: You mean about aboriginal history? AC: Yeah, about your history, about your beliefs ... About your life here on this island ... Your children ... and what you think your children ... 42:22 Clem: I'd like to talk about my belief. AC: I'd be happy if you would. One of the stories that we're doing ... this is not just about the Tiwi people. We're doing this for people all around the world in different beliefs. We're talking to people about their beliefs about the after-life -- you know, what happens to people after life? You know they believe in Heaven. Clem: I think you heard a story about an old lady named Mootonkullah (sp). I think she's a first creation that made this to an island. AC: Mooton ...? Clem: Mootonkullah. AC: Mootonkullah? Clem: Uhm. AC: Mootonkullah? MAN IN BACKGROUND: Mootonkullah. Clem: Nobody knows where she came from. And she had three children ... carrying her three children behind her back. And as she was crawling, then the water came from under and made these two islands. So after she made the ?Epson Strait -- so we don't know where she went. AC: Did her children become the Tiwi people? Clem: I think so. I think it's Polikapolli (sp), Kapara (sp) and Wey-eh (sp). AC: That's the three children? Clem: I think. But we wasn't told the story about the name of the children ... the old blind lady. But I knew the mother's name is Mootonkulla. That's all we know. AC: Okay. But those were three children she was carrying on her back? Clem: On her back. AC: Yeah. MAN IN BACKGROUND: Big woman. AC: And how long have the Tiwi people been here? Do you know? Forever, I guess. Clem: Two thousand years, I think. Forever. Or 40,000 years. AC: Or maybe longer. Clem: Maybe. 45:45 AC: Do you have children here? Clem: Yes. I've got seven children. AC: Seven children? And what do they do here? I have three children. CL; My oldest son, he work for Breck's. AC: Yeah. Breck's is the ...? Clem: Tape and video. AC: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they had the game on. They had the game on -- the grand final on ... at Breck's. Clem: And ... AC: How old is he? Clem: He's 31 years of age. But the other son, he live in Darwin. And the other daughter ... other son is not working, and he's got children. And the other daughter living in Darwin. And my other daughter, she's doing study about skill and knowledge. And she's gonna go to ? and do her course. AC: How many Tiwi children stay on the island and how many go to Darwin? Clem: I don't know. But we got more population here than the other island -- Garden Point and Snake Bay. AC: More people here? Clem: Yeah. AC: Yeah. You have a good school here. Clem: Uhm. 47:50 AC: We were at the Tiwi Design today. Do many of the children ... (Notes truncated)
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