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Subject: (Interview). Subtitle: Diane Bell. Timecode In: 00:00:04. Timecode out: 00:20:48. Notes: Women explorers. Equipment Notes: Stereo=1; Dual-Channel Mono. 1:16 My name is Diane bell. I am a prof of anthro and director of the women's studies program at GWU¿¿..1:37 I have a PhD in anthropology from the Australian Natl University¿. DS - description of Geo Century series¿..why so few famous women explorers during most of this century. 2:50 DB - well it is interesting that you emphasize the word famous. What makes fame - it is what we know from the written record very often. We know from anyone who does any research on women knows that it very often very hard to reclaim women form the written record. Very often they are just not put down as important - they might be present when something happens, and they may in fact be doing something very interesting, but their name is not necessarily recorded. Some of the early explorers certainly could not have gone where they went had they not been women with them. But those women are not there. So we sometimes have to look to other ways - other sources to reclaim women from history. Women keep journals, they keep diaries, they write letters, but they are not the things we think of as the stuff of political action or the stuff of real history, and it is only really with feminist historians with an interest in women in history going back and saying how do we reclaim women from the written record and what does it mean that women don't seem to be in the record - written record. Is it that they weren't there or they weren't recorded as being there. 3:50 DS - an ex would be Sakajawia 3:53 DB - Sakajawia with Lewis and Clark. Yes, they could have never made it without her. But it is only recently that she has been valorized a member of that team. 4:03 DS - and you would say that is bc who got to write the history? 4:07 DB - it is partly who gets to write the history. It is also partly what we consider to be exploration. What we consider to be heroic. What we take to be markers. Arriving at the north pole, the south pole, they are things we understand as enormously momentous occasions - where in fact a woman might be doing something which is very important, but we do not give it that same kind of credit. It is not valorized in our notion of what is an event - an historic event. I mean in my own field, in anthropology, I think of those women who were fanning out across the globe and one of them, Frederica del Laguna, is still alive - born in 1906. Went out in to the field very early and did a trip to Greenland to do research there. Margaret Mead going to Samoa as a young woman in her early 20s. a host of women anthropologists who were working down in the southwest. 5:03 doing very heroic things as women. Working against the expectations of women, doing pioneering work in the field of anthropology, and it is only now that we are starting to reclaim them and understand what extraordinary lives they were living - what an extraordinary contribution they made to the discipline also. 5:22 DS - ¿hard for women to get the money 5:35 DB - oh, certainly. When you look at the women we know about there is very often a class issue there. These are women who had independent wealth or could call on money in order to get where they are going. All were in a relationship with a man that facilitated that. Though, many of those women who traveled abroad where traveling individually and that's what makes them extraordinary women - I am thinking of OUT OF AFRICA. 6:04 DS - amelia earhart said¿women weren't expected to do what men did¿..did expectations have anything to do with it? 6:27 DB - yes, but expectations changed. I don't think you could actually say that there is development out of ignorance into enlightenment when it comes to women and education and wh... (Notes truncated)
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