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Subject 1: (Interview). Subtitle: Ed Cassano; Rob Klinger, Lyndal Laughrin. Timecode In: 00:05:18. Timecode out: 00:52:48. Notes: Santa Cruz Island; Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary. Subject 2: (Interview). Subtitle: Ed Cassano; Rob Klinger, Lyndal Laughrin. Timecode In: 01:18:33. Timecode out: 01:29:34. Notes: Santa Cruz Island; Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary. Subject 3: Pale-tipped Tyrannulet (Inezia caudata). Timecode In: Unknown. Timecode out: Unknown. Habitat: Ocean. Equipment Notes: Stereo=2: 1=L, 2=R; Decoded MS stereo. NMS - Channel Islands DAT 3 June 24, 1997 9:42 am Ed Cassano (EC) Rob Klinger (RK) Lyndal Laughrin (LL) On Santa Cruz Is, going on hike with Univ. and Nature Conservancy. Walking up beach, recording surf. ms--mic 0:40-surf, nice crashing wave at 2:04 walking 2:30 2:43-bg talking and surf 3:50-more surf and walking in sand with clicking of cameras 4:35-id of people on hike 5:18-ac well we'd like to know about the island and its history and how you see the island and your rel. with the sanc. 5:28-7:49 rk "well obv. we're an inholding with the park and the sanctuary from the standpoint of conserv. management there's abs. no way you can separate what we're doing on the land and what's going on in the ocean. like i was telling you before one of our main programs is a prescribed burning program we're using that prescribed burning program urn as a way of controlling some of the exotic plants out here and also since it was one of the main ecological processes out here to shape the plant comm. what species occurred where and how these changed over time. we have hopes of restoring that as an ecological process that's been suppressed since the ranching era--160 years--you know you talk about this as an ecolo. process restoring an ecological process the fire regime out here was prob completely a slave to the fog regime and the for regime is totally dependent on what's happening with the marine environment changes in temp--currents and wind patterns so when we talk about using fire as a restoration tool and as something we're restoring as an ecological process we have to realize that we may be focused on the scale of tens to hundreds of acres when actually there are these large processes happening out in the ocean that over the long term are going to determine how we use fire and what we can expect when we use fire ... (more talk about the islands' climate)" 7:50 ac What is it that you want to do with this island 7:55 rk I think ideally what we'd like to do from a management standpoint is remove the gr. ecological threats, feral animals some of the most invasive alien plants once those threats are removed set up a management pro. that est. a trajectory if you will of what dir. we would like to see the native species go--we know we're not going to get all the alien species off this island that's impossible 25% of our flora are non native and we know that we're going to have animals introduced here intermittently over time --things are always going to be changing but is we can establish a set of conditions that over all benefits native plants and animals so that they can at least achieve parity with the non-natives and then step back and let it go and not tinker. ed was talking about the time frame ... {more talk about the fact that this is a long-term project) 10:05-10:15 rk But i think ultimately we would like to have a hands-off approach to this island simply because if you tinker too much you're probably going to screw things up ultimately conversation with LL and RK about nat. cons. and long-term program changes on the island, ecological changes. 16:42 cj what about the native peoples? 16:50 LL right now we have evidence on san miguel island dating back to roughly ar. 10,000 yrs before present for native americans to be o... (Notes truncated)
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