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Kamchatka Peninsula
Kamcatskij kraj, Russia
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Equipment Notes: Subject 1 and 6 are decoded MS stereo. Spaced omni mics used for Subjects 2-5. Show: Kamchatka Log of DAT #: 4 Engineer: Michael Schweppe Date: Sept. 30, 2002 -October 1, 2002 0.0 GR I know but its funny the Coho's migrate these little channels and stuff and swampy spots and if you're really there you can see them rolling. 0.10 EA Because there in major spawning mode by then? 0.13 GR Maybe we're late for them and they're already done. (EA: don't you think) 0.19 MS Take 4 I think. Maybe five. Monday 29th-30th M/S. (EA and GR talking in the background) 0.37 MS What's inconsistent? 0.39 EA Engineers, salmon 0.42 MS Life 0.46 EA Where are we right now? 0.46 GR Sopochnaya River just looking at Babushka. We're on a gravel bar in the middle of nowhere. 0.55 EA Where are we and why are we here? (Laughing) 0.58 EA How'd you get started doing all this. 1.00 GR Um well, I'd been working in fish conservation for about 10 years. I've been 17 years in the conservation business, and I started off working on rainforest issues and then about 1990 I moved from the east coast back out to Oregon and worked for Oregon trout petitioning, working to list salmon and steelhead under the endangered species act, and did that for about 7 years and hooked up with Pete Soverel who's our founder and together we kind of built this organization. 1.32 EA What even attracted you to the notion? 1.35 GR Well the whole idea is to try to find and save the last best salmon rivers across the pacific rim and I mean I spent 10 years, well I spent 7 years in the Northwest fighting pitched battles trying to protect the last of what we've got and using the endangered species act it just occurred to me increasingly over the years that if you really want to save something you've got to get there first and get there early before it's been beaten up and is at its eleventh hour. And um we realized that if we really wanted to have healthy salmon in 500 years or 10,000 years, you can't do it by starting with the rivers that already have dams and clear cuts and farms and agriculture and thousands of people. One of the most tragic lessons that we've learned in the Northwest is that no amount of money can bring the salmon back to the way they once were once the damage has been done and if you really want to save salmon the most effective way to do it is to find the rivers that haven't yet been pounded where the fish are still there the habitat are still there and work aggressively and creatively to protect those places while we still can. 2.52 EA Do you want to¿ MS rustles about 3.12 EA Well that's something I want to touch on which is it delicate because it's like we've messed up ours, now we're going to come over here and tell you how not to mess up yours. 3.22 GR Yeah, yeah it's. I mean it's absolutely¿they kind of do a double-take and say ok you messed up yours, now you're a prosperous nation you want us to not mess up ours and what do you want to keep us back in the Stone Age, and the argument we're making is we're not trying to stop them from developing their natural resourced we're just telling them that they've got a chance that we had and we lost 200 years ago, 150 years ago, that they can develop those resources but why don't they set aside a few places so that they can keep their options open. Instead of damaging every river why not take a few of them and protect them. And that's very different than saying don't develop oil, don't develop gas, don't develop gold. 4.06 EA And isn't it also, don't do this here and we'll help you to not do it here. 4.12 GR Yeah, our role is, these resources belong to the Russians, and in some ways they belong to the world and some people can say those boundaries are just political boundaries and the planet, it's one planet that we all l... (Notes truncated)

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