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Equipment Notes: Two-Track Mono recording. Show: Orangutans - Scott Stanley Log of DAT #: 1 of 1 Engineer: Studio 3A Date: 11-13-02 SS = Scott Stanley RJ = Ramon Janis WB = Wasisto Budiharsoyo Upi = CJ = Christopher Joyce 1.01 SS Yeah, I don't often wear ties. I have to look at the book about how to tie that knot again. 1.10 CJ You can get the clip-ons now. 1.11 SS Yeah. It'd be a lot better, certainly quicker. 1.14 CJ Um, before we talk about the paper, which I've read which is really fascinating. Let me, radio is no images by definition so we like to give people a feeling and as you and I have spent some time and you far more than I in the rainforest but our listeners haven't. Give me an idea about this place you're in Berau, in East Kalimantan¿what kind of place do you work in? What kind place are the orangutans in. 1.42 SS Well, it's a district of about five million acres. Most of that 90 percent is still forested. That's one of the reasons why we went to this particular district in East Kalimantan. Besides that the local government, which we have one representative here has been very cooperative with us and pretty much have welcomed us and are listening to what we have to say as an example. Uh, Bakwasisa heds up the local planning board and they just recently undertook a spatial plan for Berau, basically ten year guide on what needs to be developed where, what's important to conserve too. And we also looked at what are the areas that are most important, not to turn into national parks but that the forest areas maintain their ecological functions and we identified those areas and he and his organization incorporated every single site including the orangutan site and as I mentioned that's on the border of Berau in lowland rainforest and uh 2.58 CJ Can you describe this rainforest for me in a way that somebody can visualize it. 3.02 SS Ah¿good question. Roughly rainforests there are about a hundred and twenty feet tall, on average the tallest trees, and really you're looking at almost this cathedral effect with the trees just shooting up to the sky. You're walking in these forests, light really doesn't penetrate fully. They're a little damp also. It gets about a hundred inches a rain a year. 3.37 CJ A little damp. 3.38 SS Yeah a little damp. So when its not raining, its threatening to rain there too but there is a three month dry season. Um the interesting thing about this forest is that in all of Borneo there are 12 species of primates and this one particular area has all twelve. And this is unique to so you walk through the woods and what's interesting for radio listeners especially is you're going to hear gibbons. You're going to hear other calls. You're going to hear hornbills. Helmeted hornbills or rhinoceros hornbills. Their wingspans are five feet from tip to toe and the sounds that they make their calls are just spectacular and then if you're really fortunate you could hear an orangutan long call, which is amazing too in itself. 4.36 CJ What-tell me can you describe it? 4.39 SS Uh¿its basically a low, very low, not a growl, but more of grunt. Long drawn out grunt. 4.52 CJ I read somewhere that someone had described it as the sound of water running through a steel pipe. 4.57 SS Laughs. Uh perhaps. That wouldn't be how I'd describe it but yeah, that's 5.04 CJ How would you describe it? 5.05 SS Yeah. Um¿Pretty much this uh¿I would have to say somebody probably stepping on a tack. And their reaction to stepping on that tack in more of a low guttural sound. 5.28 CJ I'm thinking of an obscenity myself. 5.31 SS Yeah. 5.31 CJ When they are amazingly intelligent animals from Robert Schumacher's work. So you've obviously spent, doing this research, weeks and weeks and weeks at a time out in this rainforest. The Diptarokarp forest and I'm... (Notes truncated)

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