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Subject 1: (Interview). Subtitle: Donna Wilke. Timecode In: 00:00:27. Timecode out: Unknown. Notes: Makah Tribe. Subject 2: (Interview). Subtitle: Frank Smith. Timecode In: 00:31:40. Timecode out: 01:10:53. Notes: Makah Tribe; Totem pole/canoe carving. Subject 3: (Interview). Subtitle: Jeff Howatte. Timecode In: 01:10:54. Timecode out: 01:40:03. Notes: Makah Tribe. Habitat: Rural. Equipment Notes: Stereo=1; Decoded MS stereo. NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS Olympic Coast NMS LOG DAT # 5 Reporter: Elizabeth Arnold (EA) Interviews with: Donna W,ilke (DW) Frank Smith Jeff Howatte MS 00:44 DW -I have kind of lived in Neah Bay most of my life. I went to grade school here, I was raised here and then about the 6th grade I moved to the city, to Seattle, I went to 1 yr of grade school [WIND PROBLEM, START OVER] 1:49 -I was born here at Neah Bay (EA: uh huh) and I lived most of my childhood here with my great grandparents, my mother passed away when I was a baby so I lived with my great grandparents and learned a lot of traditions and sort of the old ways of religion and they never really converted over to the other side so to speak. So I kind of learned about berries and the natural way of life, I don't recall a lot of it. Then I went to the city. My father took me to me to the city when I was in the 6th grade, and then I went to jr. High and high school, and graduated from h.s. in Seattle. As soon as I start having children and I got married I came back here. And raised the children out here out on Neah Bay -out on the ocean side. Away from the villages, where we own property. So my kids had a really nice up bringing, close to nature, and my son has been working with the national -(EA -national marine sanctuary) marine sanctuary -and he is the natural resources director. And I think a lot of his felling about the nature of things comes from the way he was brought up. And -so he has been in full support of this program, and it has been our philosophy to try to live with nature as much as we can even in these modern times and kind of let nature do its thing and we just live with it and try to get by the best we can. And that is really the basic philosophy of our people for thousands of years. In these modern times it is not so easy to do. You have to make way for housing and more people and more people -so you have to make room. And unfortunately when you have to make room for people, the animals suffer from that -but having the marine sanctuary here is an equal protection. It is like they help us protect the wildlife -the wild birds -and then there is also a balance that has to be maintained, Sometimes they over -one species over populates bc of the over protection sometimes. So you need to go in there and kind a level that species out so it is not dominating the chain -the food chain 4:25 EA -but, you know, did the sanctuary seem like a new idea? It seems to me that you all were treating this area like a sanctuary all along ¬ 4:33 DW -oh, absolutely. We have always fished leaving -you know we make a living offit -we sell the fish for money, but that pays for clothing and all of the necessities oflife. But also we also fish for eating (good birds in the bg). So it is ¬but we have never been to the point where we go out there and catch all ofthe fish and just leave them -today there is a big problem with the fact that you can only fish certain size in a specie ifyou bring them in you get penalized for that -so a lot offish have to go over board that are very worthwhile eating. We are still working on that problem of possibly having a tribal boat go out and pick up the fish that they can't eat and bring it home to have it smoked or kippered or something for sustenance. 5:35 EA -Makah have been taking things out from the sea for thousands ofyears (DW -uh huh) and yet all ofthose things have always been replenished. ... (Notes truncated)
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