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Claire Parkinson, Elizabeth Arnold  







North pole research discussion.  

NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
28 Apr 1999

  • Canada
  • North Pole
  • 90.0   0.0
  • Stereo
    Sampling Rate
  • 48kHz
    Bit Depth
  • 16-bit
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  • 2-Channel mono recording

Show: North Pole
Log of DAT #: 14
"Elizabeth's North Pole Tape #1"
Date: 4/28/99
Note: Throughout much of this tape, sound is lost at frequent intervals.

ng = not good
ok = okay
g = good
vg = very good

sound begins

walking in snow

EA :34
American radio. Will you talk to me? And your name is?

FB :38
Fransisco Ban.

EA :40
And what have you just done? What have you just done? You just skied from¿

FB :45
We have performed, we have performed, I think, just (unintelligible), the North Pole was here and we have just finished the crossing of the ice from Russia, for Artichesky Cape to the North Pole. For, this is the first time that a Spanish team performs this kind of thing.

EA 1:03
How long have you been out?

FB 1:04
60 days.

EA 1:05
And how was it?

FB 1:06
Yes. Very hard, this year, I think because the first days were very cold. The temperature has been, has been doing for us an extra taking out of the stamina and the ice was very good the first time, but the second part, we were stopped for seven days in different times of the coursing due to wind storm, snow storm, and so on. So we were a bit pressed, psychologically pressed, because we know that the problem here is a run against the weather, huh. You have to be here maybe at the end of April, first of May. So we have to be very, we have to be moving very last the last 15 days of this month. We were in 88, in 88 north on 10 days ago. So the last 10 days we have done 200, well, 2 miles. (interruption)

EA 2:25
But there's not much left on the bottom of your ski. Not much left.

FB 2:29
Well, hours later, our pokes were weighting nearly 120 kilograms, so you are not able to move it without the skins, but as you have seen, I saw you, the skin is completely worn out, huh. You need to band it with the strips or maybe wire or something like that because it sticks out, it brokes, or something.

EA 2:55
What do you think of this place? What do you think about this place?

FB 3:00
This place? This is a very strange beauty. I think it's quite different from all the other things. Not only the place, but the feeling that you are, that the sensation that you are getting here. So the solation, the complete isolation, and the special feeling of moving over something that is moving at the same time. If you are seeing, one time we have seen the ice packing on us, just under us, so we were seeing the ice packing and we were moving, go and back at the same time. The skis were, you are stepping, the skis, right, just back, so yes, like an earthquake.

EA 3:41
Seasick? Does it make you seasick? And so the Pole is always moving, right.

FB 3:46
Yes, of course. In this night, this guy come here. Well, you are on day, we are on night due to a different starting point and the Pole was half a mile in that direction. Now it's a mile and a bit from that direction, so the Pole is the middle of nowhere, huh.

EA 4:08
But you got somewhere?

FB 4:10
Yeah. Well, I think that this place is in the heart, in the heart, in the heart, but the eye says no. You are, now we are empty, we have finished, that's all.

EA 4:22
How do you feel about all these people, you know? The divers and the people from Canada and the people from Italy and all these people up here.

FB 4:30
I think everyone has the right to be here, but I would like that a bit of respect about the place itself. To preserve the medium and take a bit of care not to arrive the snobbism of being here to take barbecue or something like that. To respect it.

EA 4:54
It's kind of nice, though. You've been out for 60 days and you come here and there's all kinds of people.

FB 4:59
Yeah, we were, in fact, the first person that I have seen was the, your fellow, this night when we were sleeping, I be heard a voice, an English voice, so I opened the sip, and "Who are you?"

EA 5:16
And now your helicopter, or plane comes?

FB 5:19
Helicopter. At 12 o'clock, I think, Russian time. We won, in fact we are planning now to go north to film it, the arrive for the Spanish TV and then to get the helicopter and go back.

EA 5:32
How do you feel about it being done over? How do you feel now it's done, just done?

FB 5:37
Now, just now? Tired. Very tired. Happy, very happy, but tired.

EA 5:44
What's next?

FB 5:45
I don't know. I have been in the three poles. North, South, and Everest, so¿

EA 5:51
So what's left?

FB 5:52
A lot of things. I have a son of nine months old.

EA 5:57
Oh, I do too. I do too. Nine months? Is he crawling yet?
FB 6:02
It's three months ago that I left Spain. Now I will hear that it is taller, his weight nearly 10 kilograms, so I am very fond to see my son.

EA 6:16
Yeah, I can understand that. Thank you. Thank you for talking with me.

Interview ends, interruption in sound

FB 6:28
English climber. You know something about the English climbers? They, the good English climbers, the first one, the Everest. Mallory and Ervin, do you know them? Well, someone asked Mallory, "Why are you climbing mountains?" And he answered, "Because I want to see what's on the other side." So what are you here in the North Pole? Because I want to see all the world round me in just a minute. There's no response. There's maybe a challenge, a personal challenge.

7:17 - 8:00
voices, laughing, feet moving in snow

8:01 - 8:32
conversation between Elizabeth and Corky

9:58 - 10:58
ng- voices, fuzzy and breaking up

EA 10:59
Corky, tell me what you just did.

CP 11:04
Well, I just talked to my wife from the North Pole. In fact, we're beyond the North Pole (voice breaks up) mind-boggling that communications have come to that and I told her that I was feeling well (voice continues to break up). The silence is deafening. The beauty is cruel. It's a good to be with people who know what they're doing and it will be good to get back home safe and sound.

12:16 - 17:44
ng- voices in background talking on phone to family (breaking up), conversations and laughing (fuzzy and breaking up)

GPS located within half of a centimeter and it's been carried all the way up here to the exact North Pole and this is a benign example of how mankind can impact his environment in ways Mother Nature never dreamed of, so he better be careful. Okay, that's why we got all this high technology here. So we can all watch the planet and keep an eye on what we did to make a difference. There it is. From one pole to the next.

¿technical tinkering¿

19:12 - 20:00
zipping noises, voices

20:15 - 20:42
dragging, walking through snow

20:55 - 26:00
voices, setting up in the snow

26:03 - 27:40
loud drilling noises

27:38 - 32:00
Claire and Elizabeth discuss ice thickness experiment over sounds of drill (breaks up)

32:00 - 33:00
ng- walking, voices

33:05 - 34:15
drill begins again with Claire speaking and other background voices

35:18 - 40:18
drilling intermittently again with voices

40:20 -41:21
walking in snow

machine sounds, voices

EA 44:06
Well, the ice isn't doing anything now, but it was. I'm standing on a lead (breaks up) and there's a huge crack, which I was microphoning earlier and you could hear that. Big jumbles and tumbles of ice along the edge and open water in the middle.

walking, dragging in snow


47:34 - 48:20
moving around in snow

CP 48:33
However, what we just did failed. We tried to get ozone visions and things are just too cold right now and we got them in Resolute, we got them in Eureka, but the first thing you have to do is set the location and when you set the location of where you are by using a GPS unit, global positioning system, so you turn on the global positioning system, and first of all, that took some effort this morning, too, but we finally got a global positioning system to work, and it gave us correct position, but then you have to hook, there's a cable, and you hook it into the global positioning unit and into the ozone measuring unit, which is called a MicroTOPS, that TOPS stands for total ozone portable spectrometer, and the Micro just means small, so it's a portable, and when we hooked it in, even more attempting any ozone measurements, it just won't even accept the GPS unit, so we can't even get the correct location into the machine and, as I said, it worked fine in Resolute Bay and at Eureka, in terms of at least getting the GPS unit, but we just can't do it here. I've tried everything I could think of. We heated the batteries first, heated the unit first and the GPS unit, because they were both awfully cold, and then after heating them and it still not working, and that was like 2 hours later, after heating them for 2 hours, then tried taking the batteries out and putting in new batteries even though the machine was coming on, it just wouldn't do anything. And even with brand new batteries which have just been heated up, it still won't work. So we've kind of run out of options now, especially since we're supposed to be packing up everything we possibly can because when our flight arrives later this afternoon, it's gonna be a mad rush because we got some things that are, have to be last minute at this point. So we're having to pack up and maybe next time. Maybe next time we'll get the ozone measurements from the Pole.

end of interview

52:06 - 52:26
walking through snow

EA 52:23
What do you think? You think it's gonna work? Yeah, you ready? Ready as you can be anyway?

Right. We're just staging stuff up there so when the plane comes, the plane will arrive just as our connection will be ending, so we're probably only going to webcast for 45 minutes out of the two hours that we have, just so we have time to finish packing all of the equipment and the only fear is a multipath where the signal degrades because of reflection off the ice, so the satellite is such a low elevation. And I got some yesterday at about 4 o'clock, so, central time, so in 50 minutes, when it's 3 o'clock, we should be fine for 45 minutes.

54:40 - 57:06
packing sounds, zipping, and voices (muffled)

distant yelling, dogs barking

59:10 - 59:42
yelling, g dog barks

59:59 - 1:02:20
yelling, dogs moving

1:02:21 - 1:03:05
g dog noises

1:03:18 - 1:07:38
dogs, yelling, running through snow

¿technical problems¿

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