Allen Mondido, Christopher Joyce
Social/community development discussion with regards to Mangrove plantings.
Motor boat sounds
NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
22 Feb 2004
- Island of Honduman
- 9.86802 124.178
- SONY TCD-D8
- Sennheiser MKH 40
- Sennheiser MKH 30
Decoded MS stereo
Show: Radio Expeditions
Log of DAT #: 7
Engineer: Marty Kurcias
Date: Feb 2004
Dat 7 Hong Kong/ Philippines
This dat contains interview on Kanecmiduhan(sp?) and an interview with Allen Mondido about Mangrove tree planting. Also, ambi, getting ready for guard house blessing in Jindiyan.
Island of Honduman, in Bohol, it's raining, Feb 21st or 22nd
0:45 Ambi. Hard rain, birds chirping.
1:11 interuption to move to better spot
1:21-4:02 Ambi, same as above
4:19-6:05 Ambi. (Sunday, the 22nd, walking to Mangrove planting site at Honduman). Walking, sloshing, ppl talking, low hum of motor.
5:32 FX. People talking, some birds chirp
6:13 AM-Right now we're at the land both to connect ?? to their handicrafts and this is their poultry house, so they're gonna grow some organic chicken here. And these are seaweeds. Some of them are members, but this is not an organizational activity. CJ-This is seaweed to eat? AM-It could be eaten but they usually dry it and sell to Sibu for price. CJ-What do they make with it? ?-Are used for as stabilizers for toothpaste, soap, shampoo. CJ-And they're just building the chicken house and what are they going to do with the money they make from this? AM-This is some sort of demonstration also for members. At first they need this one so that some members can learn how to do the poultry, organic poultry raising. CJ-Members of? AM-Kanecmiduhan(?). They're going to learn from this. We hope that after the organizational activities demonstration members can learn the tech in their own backyards. CJ-And just to make sure we understand it can you define Kanecmuhan? AM-Kanekmuhan in the ?? is one of the original ingrates of the Philippines, it stands for Kockbuhans ??? Simply in Philippines it's United Fishers and Committee Organization of Handuhan. CJ-So it's a fisher org? AM-It's a fisher org. but as you can see most of them are women b/c it's a household org and most of the men are out in the sea so the women members are the ones solely attending meetings and seminars. So their still the transfer of skills and knowledge to all members of household.
8:13 CJ-And can you say who you are and what you do? AM-I'm Allen Mondido, I'm the community organizer of Prject CRS. I am based here in Duman and I'm one of the helpers of CRS that's helping connect community leaders to development, social development, those aspects.
8:34-9:09 Ambi of surroundings
9:45 AM-We could go there. Some of the members are in the seaweed farms. CJ-Seaweed farms? AM-Some of the members are in the seaweed farms. CJ-Okay, let's go there. AM-(Speaks in other tongue). They go off to the farm
11:30 Ambi of them walking over to seaweed farms
13:01 AM-This is a crab pad and usually visitors here are doing crab fishing during the day because they are afraid going out during the night b/c fishing boats could take this way. CJ-The fishing boats could pull up the crab pots accidently. AM-And when the fishing boats would pull up this one the fishers would somehow pay some sort of a royalty to them for some sort of a stupid thing that some fisher would be competing with commercial fishers. At the same time they're gonna pay still the commercial fishers if they pull this up. CJ-And crab fishing is one of the maj industries here? AM-Ya, it's one of the maj industries here, as you can see we have a big area from this island and ?? island, as you can see it's a maj source of activity. CJ-And I see what happens is the tide comes out so far that it exposes all this mud flat. AM-Ya, this one. It could be the result of cutting of trees in the upland so the maj protectors of the sea are the mangroves, so w/o these mangroves all the silt would go directly to the sea. CJ-So the mangroves keep the runoff from going to the sea. AM-Ya CJ-The runoff goes to the ocean, what happens to the reefs? AM-The runoff goes to the ocean the first habitats spected? Are the seagrasses, same time all the seagrasses are covered it will directly affect the corals.
14:54 CJ-The idea of planting mangroves, what's the idea here? AM-The idea of protecting more mangroves is protecting other habitats like the sea grasses and the corals. All sorts of other parts of silt and other grasses, both coming from the upland. CJ-So how many ppl do this mangrove planting? AM-It now has 47 members and all those members are helping in mangrove planting. They actually have a regular mangrove planting each month and they do it every end of the month and they usually do it on the end weekend of each month. CJ-So how do you plant a mangrove tree? AM-You have to cut it first and then you proper gils and sometimes you have to climb the mangrove tree just to gather mature propagils and after gathering propagils you plant it in the mud flat here. CJ-When you plant do you dig a hole or just stick it in? AM-There are some parts ?? So they're just looking for bark to plant the mangroves ?? One part of the length of the mangrove is planted. CJ-One fourth of the length of the propagil? AM-Ya, propagil. CJ-And you just stick it in the mud? AM-Ya, it just survives. CJ-How long does it take to grow a mangrove tree? AM-Actually a mature mangrove is already a living one so if you just put it there there's no flooding, it will survive.
16:33-17:15 Ambi of sounds around interview
17:16-22:41 Walking to the next location, setting up, etc.
22:44 AM-This area is one of the sites very good for mangrove planting so they don't yet have the legal aspect yet, but w/o having the legal aspect they're helping the envro. They're working on what they call the Community based ?? Agreement. There are some other ppl planting there, but K?? wants this area to be their area b/c it's right near the sanctuary. CJ-Sanctuary? AM-It's right near the sanctuary as well if you take this area they're also protetcting the sanctuary. CJ-And what we see here, these little seedlings that look like they come right out of the rock¿AM-Ya, some of them are intentionally planted at the needle of that area cause the canal of that area is the area where, is the places where fishers use in going out to the sea so they don't plant mangroves there. And as you can see this one also seems like they grow on rocks. CJ-It's amazing, they're very, very hardy plants, they're really¿AM-They could really survive. There is something I want to show you¿This one is mud and silt but as the time goes by the mud has been carried by water to the sea. After a year or two you can see this mangrove growing on rocks without silt or no more mud b/c there needs to be more mangroves. If there is only one mangrove you cannot have the muc and the silt. So there's no use for just one mangrove, you need to plant more mangroves.
24:45 CJ-You need bunches of them together. And these funny looking prop roots, I guess that's what they're called, these funny looking roots that come out of the ground are what hold them together? AM-I forgot, ask Brian later. There is still some // area so there is still some challenge. Some ppl use the mangroves for fire wood, some for their homes so there's a big challenge for conserving mangroves and using mangroves properly, sustainably. If you just cut them then all of the space would begin. Actually it's illegal to cut mangroves in the Phil but apparently they're not being the law is not properly being enforced b/c mangroves are also a livelihood of the ppl.
25:55-26:48 Ambi after interv.
26:58 They start walking again.
27:16 AM-We have three types of bucow. Bucowlaliki, that's the main one, Bucowbabie, that's the female one, and bucowbucow, that's somehow inbetween the male and the female. The female has the longest propagil. It could reach the up to a meter. The male has the shortest propagil (laughs) and this one is inbetween them. You could collect this one, see. (someone speaks in other language) AM-Green, the mature one you can observe has a dark green color so it will be sure it will survive b/c it's mature, but if you collect the ones that are not yet mature it will not survive. Have to think about demands to grab up for the roots so. They will survive b/c if you take this one. CJ-That's the bud, sorry. What'd you pull off there? AM-This is some of the cup, the cup of the propagil. As you can see it's already living. CJ-Cause it has a little spine underneath it. AM-The only thing it needs to survive are the roots, the roots so the roots will just grow. CJ-Do you take the cap off first? AM-Actually this is for protection. It will protect the mangrove from diseases and infestations so what you will do is put this one w/o removing the cup. Just like this. (laughs) It's simple. One fourth to one half (speaking to a woman in Phil lang). ?-How many months then? AM-Six months. ? -What?
29:49-30:49 Ambi-picking propagils of mangrove.
30:58-34:50 Ambi. Walking in water.
34:53 CJ-Off to the blessing of the guard houses on the coast of Handuman. The local priest is going to bless the guard houses and perhaps the reef as well to bring good fortune and health and wealth to the community.
35:47 FX scraping of the coral as they go out on the boat
36:17-Ambi-going out on the boat
38:10-41:34 FX-Boat motor starts up
47:19 CJ-We're at Jandiyan Suer. The three villages or biankes on the island of Jandiyan. And we're about to witness the blessing of the guard houses. These are guard houses that have been erected that allow them to guard the marine protected areas, that allow them to protect the marine protected areas that are created to protect the reefs that are used for food fish and for the habitat for the seahorses that these villages depend on.
48:07 Ambi of the village.