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Conversations with climbers; Australia; Tourist climbers  

NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
18 Mar 2000

    Geography
  • Australia
    Northern Territory
    Locality
  • Uluru
    Latitude/Longitude
  • -25.345   131.03611
    Channels
  • Stereo
    Sampling Rate
  • 48kHz
    Bit Depth
  • 16-bit
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LNS #147628

NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS
Show: Australia
Log of DAT #: H-3
Engineer: Manoli
Date: March 18, 2000

ng = not good ok = okay g = good vg = very good

2:16-AC: And we're starting here at Ulum, or more popularly known as Ayres rock. It's a promontory, a great red piece of stone sticking out of the desert right in the middle of australia. We're out on a Saturday morning and (winds takes over and drowns out)
2:43-Good morning Everyone. My name is Suzy and I'm your guide for this morning and we're going on the? walk. I'd like to welcome you all to the aboriginal land. The aboriginal land is Uluru National Park. This land is owned by the aboriginal people, the traditional owners of the land. These people are called people, so if I mention that word it means I'm talking about the local people. Annanu means "we the people" .
3:25-Today we're going on the malawalk? It takes about an hour and a half. It's very informal, you can ask questions as you like, whenever you like. We're walking to a place called gorge, which is a beautiful spot. You can see the edge of the cave in there, it's just in there, it's not very fall at all.
3 :53-We close the climb when conditions are adverse. Today the reason is that it's going to be above 36(o). We have a policy that if at 4:30 the day before it's forecast to be 36 or above, the climb will be closed at 8am. That's for visitor safety, is the main reason. Especially when people come from overseas.
4:22-(someone asking) How high is it when you get to the top? Suzy: 330 meters.
4:45-People shuffling along in the direction of the rock. Good ambie footsteps with slight chatter occasionally.
7:22-Suzy-Today's walk is based upon ? During the walk I'll use many words of the language that the aboriginals speak. They cover a huge amount of australia. They cover (long distance) so they cover a lot of area.
8: 13-It's based on creation. The creation is the life and the law and the land and everything. And it encompasses everything that the? people do. This talk today is based on ? and it's just the way these are.
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8:38-So during creation time, those ancestral beings might be really small, or really large, they might be part animal, part human. So just remember that when I'm talking about a few different things. That they could take on different appearances to just us.
9: 18-Itjarijari is a marsupial mole. There's a picture there, it's that actual size, it lives in the ground, swims around the in the ground. After it rains, it will come up, have a look around look around abit then dig itself back in the ground. (tells story about itjarijari and creation)
17:21-AC: Are you training to be a park guide? (spoken by walking) Short informal interview about her educational background.
18:36-This tree here is called mormorpa (has audience say it) this tree is amazing, has so many uses for the annanu people. It grows only where there is water, so it's a sure sign that there's water around. It will grow (here and there) but won't grow on the sand dunes. People would flake off the bark, mix with water and use as an antiseptic. (more chat regarding the tree)
36:25-Ambience along the trail. Grasses swaying, wind blowing. Occasional mumble of a person.
38:24-Sound of walking again. Good. Reapproaching the group (can hear them advancing in the distance)
49:34-Suzy-Anyway, the aboriginal people ask you not to climb when you come here. They accept that people come from all over the world just to climb. That's why it's still open, and they will let you climb. But they ask you not to. And that's for a few reasons. Firstly, we just heard the mala story, it's the ceremonial pathway for the (something). No annanu person has climbed. The other reason is because it's so dangerous. Just have a look at it, it's incredible. I climbed it for the first time on Thursday and it was horrible. It is very steep, and you just have to hold onto the chain. It's windy, it's a nice view, but then you've got to climb down. They've had 33 deaths here in the last 4 years. The annanu don't want you to hurt yourself. People are twisting ankles and all this sort of stuff. They say that one of the spiritual beings are having a bad day and that's hwy someone is hurt. So they ask you not to climb because you might hurt yourself. The last person who died at the end of last year, they brought down, and there were some annanu rangers at the bottom and they said "we have to go home for? business". They had to mourn for someone who had died on their land.
53 :21-G Noise of walking back, occasional talk.
56: 19-AC starts to talk about spring?
56:29-New sound. AC: This is the uh, vertical indent in the rock at the end of the walk. I think. There's a little pool here which is urn, there's a big black mark, big wide dark stain
on the wall, so they must get a lot of water coming over here, when it's raining. When uh, and there is still water down here and marshy kinda grass. And CJ: It smells wet, there's a humidity which is unusual in this desert. Also the walls of the rock are so high you have to put your neck all the way back. It's like we're right in the middle of the arms of the rock.
57:27-Taking Ambience. Some animal noise toward 59:50 or so. Bug starts to buzz the mic around 1 :01 :08. Some birds at 1 :02:45 or so.
1 :05:53-Wind or something moving by here.
1 :06: 13-New location. Ends Ambience.
1 : 18 :40-Squeak of animal, but mixed with low chat.

1 :20:59-Opens with Ambience. Occasional bug. Yip of some animal.
1:22:22-AmbiIFX-Chirp of bird clearly here. Footsteps approach. 1:23:16-Mic noise here. 1 :23 :40-Approaching vehicle takes over the sound? Goes by then returns to ambience again. 1 :26: 13-Several skips of noise in here. Gets really bad and unusable. Clears up around 1 :29:59 with a loud bird call.
1:33 :37-Sound of soft vehicles, Ambi of a bird whistle before approaching footsteps . Goes back to ambience a few seconds later.
1 :39:52-New location, cheeping birds in chorus. 1 :40:37-Stops and restarts after noise
1:43 :06-Stops, new sound & location.
1 :46:05-CJ-Since we haven't been up there, what's it like up there?
1 :46:07 -Oh it's really nice. You definitely want to go up there in the morning when it's still dark. And go up. We got almost 3i4 of the way up and then the sun come up and by the time we got to the top we said forget it when we got to the end of the rails. And then someone said it's not that far keep going mate. So we took a nice little rest. It gets real flat up there, there's a lot of valleys and it flattens out a lot. So you got a lot of spots, so it's not so hard on the legs, the walking.
1:47:13-AC: What's it like up there? Where are you from?
Canadian guy: Canada. I didn't go the whole way. I went to the little swoop there to the platform there where everybody hangs out. I can't believe they allow just any regular people.
AC: Why's that.
co: Because it's so dangerous. It gets so skinny like, halfway up there.
AC: And steep?
co: and you can see some people sitting there on the side of the path, just shaking. I guess no one went up that far.
1:48:34-CJ-What do you see from up there?
CO-The Olgas amazing. You can get a really good view of the olgas from there. It's so steep you can't see down. You see the whole road going around. There's another range over that way, but you can see it.
1 :52:55-Sound of car driving off, then someone Alex? Ooing after them "Hey, hey, come back here! Hey you!"
1 :53:24-AC: It's 10:30 in the morning and they're just coming off the rock and boy it just looks so hot up there. Here come two women. Two women, the one in the front was walking down most of the way but the one following her came down most of the side of the hill along the way kinda scuttling on her bottom, as if she were afraid of heights. Something I sympathize with. (car sounds through this)
1 :54:57: AC: asks about knowing aborigines
1 :55:08-It's their holy ground, I can see their point. We came all the way here to try and walk on it. It's advertised all over the world and it's a big tourist tiling. And I mean, if they don't want people coming here and climbing it, then they shouldn't advertise it and they shouldn't do a lot of commercials. And I don't know. I think they should put up fences all around and say don't climb it and let it be our choice.
1:57:16-MS ambience at the base of the rock, 10:30, Saturday. Some bugs flying around. (some soft chatter in the background of this) 1:58:40-Car goes by. Some random chatter and whatnot in the background on occasion.
2:00:24-Stops recording.
2:08:24-END OF DAT!

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