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Interview 48:36 - 1:04:35 Play 48:36 - More
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Mark Collins  







Po'ouli; Hawaii endangered birds  

NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
10 Mar 1998

  • United States
    Maui County
  • Kahului; Kanaha Beach
  • 20.9025   -156.43722
    Recording TimeCode
  • :51 - 38:41
  • United States
    Maui County
  • Olinda
  • 20.8075   -156.28139
    Recording TimeCode
  • 42:26 - 1:04:35
  • Stereo
    Sampling Rate
  • 48kHz
    Bit Depth
  • 16-bit
  • Sennheiser MKH 30
  • Sennheiser MKH 40
    Equipment Note
  • Stereo=1; Decoded MS stereo

0-48 Les Gilbert (LG)
MS recording of gentle surf on a steeply sloping beach
"Kanahalui" beach on Maui (Kahului?)

5:16 birds chirping

Surf till 6:OO.

More surf

More Surf

@13:00 slight pauses in recording.
Recording gets very choppy and little breaks of static(?) to 18:28

18:38 same place but microphones in slightly different position on the rocks to

38:56 surf ends

39:08 chopper -42:06 at the airport w/ three choppers on the ground

a little forest trail up at "Olinda?" some birds before recording int. w/ mark collins

43:15-19 nice clear chirping

43:31 again same bird

43:39 different call

43:45 again

44:Ol-5 nice sequence of bird chirping

44:20 fly in background

45:01 bird call in background sounds a little like an

45:40 fades and then back at 45:55 More chirping.

48:41 ac
This is alex chadwick, I'm in the forest up in olinda
with mark collins

48:52 mc
I'm mark collins, I'm the research project coordinator for the Maui forest bird recovery project --under the dept of forestry and wildlife of state of HI

recording in stereo

49:22 ac
tell me kind of generally what is the goal of the project we are trying to observe?

49:32 mc
well you are going out to join search teams that are specifically looking for more po'ouli individuals or groups of po'ouli the second aspect of the project is that there are teams out right now, that are attempting to mist net two for the three known po'ouli and one of those two birds has never been capture take feathers from the breast of the bird that will later be used for sex determination

50:22 mc
well there's kind of a parallel between the activities of the ancient Hawaiians because in old HI, feathers had more value the greatest tradable commodities, Hi was a stone age culture and from the feathers Hawaiians would make beautiful cloaks and helmets and create fabric from it, so there was a subculture the " " who specialized in going up into the forest and collecting feathers into their snares and into branches which were smeared with bird lime the parallel is now that biologists are up in the forest also trying to collect feathers

51:29 mc
from the DNA get an idea of how po'ouli fits into the systematics of the family tree of the HI honeycreepers also find out how closely related they are to one another

52:OO ac
explain why po'ouli is important

52:19 mc
genus is artificial design what means is that the po'ouli is more unique than some of other species b/c aspects of morphology that rep diff line so whole diff line

53:11 po'ouli only in line?

53:19 ac
how is it that the bird went undiscovered until 1973?

53:28 mc
HI knew about it, but prob by the time first western ornith. Bird had probably declined in range and HI did not have contact with it so there is no oral trad of po'ouli from the native people

54:13 mc
prehistoric/paleontological evidence on drier areas.

55:08 ac
tell me about the people looking for the bird they are not people on your staff?

55:22 mc
Tania Casey and Betsy Ganea were original discoverers of the Po'ouli. They were part of sos or student originated studies back in 1973, undergrads at the Univ of HI back to where they originally discovered, they have maintained their bird watching skills, both have remained active in efforts to save Po'ouli. Both work for conservation societies.

56:42 ac
these two women are they the best?

mc -- they have more history with the species.

57:08 mc
stop and listen and yeah there could be a po'ouli in here.

Jack Jeffries 57:40 caught sight of very rare bird kapuhu?

58:14 ac
what makes people good at bird finding?

58:23 mc
well I kind of jokingly talk about bird charisma, as far as technique requires to be quiet, recognize subtle differences in calls po'ouli often fly in mixed foraging flocks.

59:36 ac
debate in conservation circles about whether to save the bird?

59 : 55

59:58 mc
The state motto of Hawaii-- the life of the land is perpetuated in righteousness ... if you think about that ... the po'ouli is well worth saving ... if there is an opp. for us to save this bird it is the righteous thing to do.1:00:23

1:00:29 ac
what if you have a variety of righteous choices to make, say limited resources you can't choose everything . . . why po'ouli

1:00:46 mc
the fate of the po'ouli is going to be determined soon, with only three birds at least at this point, two years of searching and no additional birds located . . . likelihood only a few more birds will be found ...

1:01:10 mc
should know soon whether can save this bird or not

1:01:24 ac
what if you can't save it?

1:01:30 mc
it's a situation we have run into before in HI ... seen demise of.. . . (lists birds)

1:01:50 mc
we're trying to draw line in the sand and say no more bird extinctions . . .

1:02:02 mc
if we fail hope that . . . l:02:18 we would recognize its demise and not quietly let it go but celebrate the fact that it once was here and that it was a special bird. 1:02:29

1:02:56 ac
why the precipitous decline? ... there hasn't been a huge amount of new development in the area?

1:03:13 mc
not easy to assign a reason for its decline . . . rats in the forest prey on same food ...po'ouli occurs above 4800 foot decline roughly elevation limit of mosquito that carries avian malaria . . . organisms here including Polynesians had very little resistance . . .

1:04 :18 mc
suboptimal habitat

tape change, intv. continued on DAT 2

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