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Lentil sifting, Lentil sorting  








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Sushila Nepali  







translating; Community development projects  

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Grain mill  








NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
2 Apr 2001

  • Nepal
    Madhya Pashchimanchal
  • Village near Royal Bardia National Park
  • 28.38333   81.5
  • Stereo
    Sampling Rate
  • 48kHz
    Bit Depth
  • 16-bit
    Equipment Note
  • Stereo=1; Spaced Omni Stereo; DPA 4060 Omnidirectional Microphones

Log of DAT #: 20
Date: April 2001

ng = not good
ok = okay
g = good
vg = very good

2:00 Arriving somewhere ¿ car door slams

5:10 vg Lentil sifting. (girls laughing at beginning)

6:30 threshing/sweeping (?)

7:25 vg Faster sorting ¿ both falling and sifting

8:04 Thumping and threshing

11:26 ok ¿ low levels We are looking at the lentils being, what do you call it, in the tub¿ a cleaning, actually. When they are dry you see different stages. After harvesting it and big mounds and they dry it completely so it comes easily off and after that they spread it out much better and then they either have the cows walk across it and then either they¿ll, that see what she was doing, with the wind¿ yes, it is easy that cleans would be and the road heat is much better to dry faster.

12:30 Mostly, mostly, I saw one men doing it. Ask them¿ speaks to threshers¿normally the men would, with ox they would take around They are coming. Yeah¿ around 12 o¿clock they¿ll come¿ They say, after lunch they¿ll do it¿.

14:12 Talking to children in Nepalese¿yes, they said, they like tigers ¿I was asking them where the tigers kill and they said in the jungle. If you go in they will kill, but they don¿t come into the house.

15:38 The lady was asking him to go and do the ox stuff¿yeah, they¿ve heard about that case. ¿the elephants, the tigers do sometimes come from the forest, so they said they do feel scared in the house.

17:06 This is for the water, the trench on the other side is for the plantation. No, the cattles.

17:43 In a way yes, b/c most of the time, they go to the jungle, b/c what they use are in the forest. Before, when they didn¿t have anything, normally they depend there. But we need to ask them b/c the national park is quite far. So we need to ask them, now that the forest is closer what risks they are facing right now and how we are dealing with them.

20:04 It is much better here than living far away, had to walk a long ways. And they are scared, always scared when they had to go to the jungle¿ More Nepalese¿ They are saying the mothers-in-laws goes to the meeting, they don¿t have time to go. And they say, when they get older, they will follow in the mother-in-law¿s footsteps and go to the meeting, and they have a saving group, women saving group. I asked how much they have in the group and they said she don¿t know b/c the mother-in-law goes to put the money in and they don¿t know how much they have in the group¿ for loans, for medicines to buy medicines, then they have to return it to the group again.

21:38 Nepalese¿ They tell me that they have better life than it was there earlier.

24:23 Leaving car ( vg sound of mill)

26:39 Very soft music

28:33 ¿ 51:50 Egg Woman Interview

28:33 this is Salijat Bel, and she is one of our beneficiaries, getting benefits from our income generation activities, where she started her¿ 75 chicks and normally¿ 2 to 3 days, chicks are bought here and they raise it for the local market. This is her second yr doing the poultry, when she started she didn¿t have that house, she lived in a hut like this, small hut. But this is a renovated poultry farm she has made with the bricks. In the beginning¿ in the beginning, after her first sale, she bought the bio-gas¿ ¿ it¿s dung, cow or buffalo, you put it in the cylinder there and you pour water. Actually the cylinder is attachable to the toilet. You can use human waste, too. For gas, for cooking and lighting. yes, it is a natural gas. We call it bio-gas. As we are us using, in our terminology, we call it gober. Gober means the waste or dung. So we also call it sometimes gober-gas. Actually a bio-gas where human waste and cow dungs are mixed together with water. Not normally with human waste; that goes right to the tank, here. And that yellow know that you see, that controls the gas flow. And when she needs to turn it on to cook inside, she first has to turn it on outside.

30:45 N¿ yeah, once they go for cattle grazing, all the dungs are wasted, so they are doing stall feeding¿ She has only one or two buffaloes, so she can have it around. She doesn¿t have take it¿ N¿
she was asking not to do the pump, I said it¿s okay, to go ahead.

31:31 It¿s a season for harvesting wheat¿ N¿ this year have probably the best at collecting it. It¿s not for year-round, when it¿s gone, have to buy more¿ her most income-generating, what she does for a living is the poultry she has taken up. ¿explain to her¿she says yes. She says she has more time to do poultry. And she¿s getting a new lot today, her husband is bringing¿ N¿ No, this is her 4th year, actually. Lessons for the eggs as well. She wanted to do eggs as well as the meat. Growers argued for the meat, and she did that for two years, now she¿s going back to ?? with meat and eggs together, b/c the demand for eggs is higher. And it all comes from India. So if they produce, the demand is there.

34:20 ¿N¿ she said her life has gotten better b/c she never used to go out from her house in earlier day. Like ??? and they don¿t come out, when the projects were there and they started to give out programs, and they knew about the projects and had to go to the meetings to find out. So she went there and learned, and that is how she is keeping her life easy going.

35:50 ¿ It is from the mill¿ it¿s the sound of the flume that¿s coming out and it¿s blocked by the cap¿ the sound of the mill is running, people are doing the de-husking and making four, digging out oil. If the mill stops, no one comes here and say here. No, we can¿t come here, nothing to eat, no mill today. If it¿s running they say, oh, we have to go and do something, especially during festival, they don¿t; put it of b/c there are lots of people who want fresh rice and flour and oil to be made. We eat already.

36:52 ¿she is saying today someone finishes it, and tomorrow someone uses it, so it keeps on going¿ ¿from the house, the owner, she is there¿ individual owns it¿ yeah, they have to pay¿ for one quintle, that¿s 100 kilos of grain to be made into rice, they have to pay 14 rupees. A sack full of rice costs 14 rupees.

37:57 ¿When they set this mill up, it was 45,000. That is around, less than 800 dollars they got a loan, put the land as collateral¿ they have paid off¿ they paid off the loans¿ normally when she is doing this house, she has loans from the house. Normally, if you are doing something, we have a banking system called Farmer¿s, Small Farmer¿s Banking Group. You don¿t need to have any collateral, but you have to show some sort of income that you can pay monthly back. She got the loan from that particular village back, that¿s under the agricultural bank, and that¿s how she was supported to build this house. And now she has the chicken and she¿s paying the loans back by that.

39:28 It¿s been 2 years. She¿s going to stay below and the chickens are going to be on top. ¿she says that was the trouble, that¿s why she built this house, so she wouldn¿t have to go through this trouble no more¿ she say she built this house for the poultry b/c the mongoose used to come and grab all her chickens, so she had to build this new house for all her chickens¿ she was saying she almost burned her hut last night b/c it fell from the heat and all the chicks were about to die.

40:53 ¿ for the TV. She has a TV. She also sold chickens to buy the TV. Yeah, that¿s a bee hive and it came by itself¿ ¿during summer it¿s very hard to raise the chicken. It¿s very hot and they die out. There is no fan to make them cooler. You have to depend on traditional systems. We are doing that, but we still have to fight the heat and cold in winter.

41:56 ¿she wants to keep on doing the poultry in a larger scale¿

42:58 ¿ she is saying she has taken so much loan, everyone is scared if she can¿t be able to pay back and she said she is trying her best to take the loans and pay it back¿ she¿s got the courage to take the loans and pay it back, that¿s what she said¿

43:52 ¿she is wondering what is happening, so I am telling here¿ I was telling her¿ what is the difference between the life you lived before and the one now. She said it was the same as the hill migrants and the Taru women, slowly they are exposed to better life now and they are learning to go outside. They are learning from hill migrants¿she¿s saying that ??? than the hill migrants, it is just that they are so traditional that they don¿t eat nourishing food, or wear¿ the hill migrants adapt to the situation pretty fast.

45:06 Nirinam Suriyaporkayu.

15:17 ¿ she is saying that though we have gained lots of things, we have not forgotten our culture. It¿s still there, we ?? our culture and we¿ve not traded off in such a big way that we don¿t belong to our society. That¿s what she¿s saying.

45:55 ¿she say, yeah, that¿s another kind of life, run when they see tigers or when the shout¿ the elephants come up here to the farms to eat the sugarcanes.

46:34 she¿s saying where to go? There is no where to go except this place. ¿yesterday she heard the radio, there was a story about we could dominate the men b/c this is a patriarchal society and the men have all the power and the women don¿t have any deciding power. And she was listening to that and she felt so glad that they also can do it, overpower men in the society and do what has been told in the media.

48:01 ¿she said yes b/c when then the men are not around, when the children are sick, then they are the ones that take them to the doctor. And I was asking, do other women see your success and try to replicate. She say yeah, they try to learn and just attend the meeting to hear what people are saying. That is the first output from them, just to go to the meeting and hear what people are saying is something important. They think women are the key to sustainability. When they started taking loans from the village bank, there were only 10 women taking loans, and today there are 75 who are taking loans. Tomorrow is the day that they give the loans back, and all the 75 women will get together at a certain place and they¿ll do their work¿ pay the bank back and take loans or increase loans¿

50:22 ¿all the 75 women are doing poultry, some are doing piggery, some have the little tiny, wooden shops that you saw. Some of them have, that is also from the loan, some women have gotten good buffaloes to get milk to sell in the market¿ vegetable farming, the investment in something to get money right away and pay the loans back.

50:54 ¿she said before they never used to had sufficient food and now they have the projects and people are working with them. It is for the tiger¿s sake that they are getting the benefits. Now they don¿t have the kind of pressure what they had before to run around when they don¿t have enough to eat, so now they are something better off than they are before.

53:43 ¿ 56:45 Ambi gathering (mill w/ children)

56:50 ¿ 1:00:00 Walking back ¿ footsteps w/ ambi

1:01:40 Water

1:05:06 ng Louder water (wind distort)

1:05:54 Walking

1:07:00 Splashing

1:09:34 (off-mic) Ladies and gentlemen, let¿s not go too far out. If he decides to charge you want to run your little butt back to the coach. I¿m serious.

1:10:50 More splashing

1:11:15 Cameras

1:11:44 Laughing tourists

1:12:20 Distinct wading

1:14:20 Bird (?)

1:15:45 Siren

1:16:20 END OF DAT 20

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