Dhan Bahadhur Tamang
Terai Arc; Chitwan and Bardia National Park; Indian Rhinoceros; Asian Elephant; Bengal Tiger
NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
29 Mar 2001
- Chitwan National Park
- 27.5 84.33333
Stereo=2: 1=L, 2=R; Spaced Omni Stereo; DPA 4060 Omnidirectional Microphones
Log of DAT #: 12
Date: April 23, 2001
ng = not good
ok = okay
g = good
vg = very good
00:00 ¿ spaced omnis
1:00 ¿ moving around, people speaking in background.
PB asking questions ¿
1:36 -- PB: Have you seen tigers recently?
-- Danny: Saw one yesterday
2:38 -- We¿re going to go southwest from here, a place called ______.
3:12 -- My name is Danny I was born up on the hill, I moved down here in 1969? My full name is Dhan Bahadhur Tamang. I¿ve done tiger tracking.
4:09 Danny: You can see tigers from a jeep also, but I would say more through elephant bc elephant goes through the grass, but jeep stays on the road.
PB: Is one elephant better than another
Danny: well, yes, 5:02 some elephant is very trumpeting when see tigers, others growl.
5:26 Danny names elephant (can¿t understand)
6:10 nice birds, talking in background¿
6:20 P.B.: So how do you track a tiger?
6:24 Danny: by elephant, by foot, by jeep
6:29 P.B.:What do you look for?
Danny: Tracks, mostly. You can see a track from up here, 6:33 Yeah, if I see one I¿ll tell you so we can tell by footprints you can tell male and female you can tell ___¿
P.B.: Do you know all the tigers in the area?
7:03 Danny: By footprints, yes. They all have names.
7:09 Danny: They all have names in our study area. Not far down, we do the tiger monitoring for a long time¿in the whole park like 40 but in our study area is two male and one ____ three big male, an adult female, two, three four ¿ four in this area.
So who might we run into today?
7:57 Danny: Today, hopefully, we can see (names)¿the was the place where she was born and she¿s usually there.
8:34 Danny: at that time there were four cubs three of them male one of them female
9:35 (Explaining why area is good for tigers.) Danny: It¿s usually the female -- this area is very rich for the tigers, there¿s a lot of water, and also prey is quite a lot here, four kinds of dear¿samba¿wild boar, they go almost everything so till now for them this is a rich density for the tigers¿(traveling sounds in back)
JN Is project working?
11:04 Danny: Is working yes, yes¿Usually people come into the park and collecting firewood¿
Talking about the project
12:04 JN: Some of the tiger experts we talked with say that even though this park is big and rich and full of tigers in the long run you have to connect the parks so that you can have a metapopulation, so that the tigers can move.
12:31 Danny: If they have corridors they can go from here to India and India tigers to here¿and that¿s kind of corridors, that kind of thing we can have more tigers. but I would say this park supports max 50-55, after that I don¿t think we can support here. Usually we have tiger cubs¿every two or three years but seems like male tigers are disappearing. I don¿t know where they¿re going probably they are going out of the park and killing domestic livestock and then maybe they are poisoned or something happens¿or they have to fight with the dominant male¿
JN: If a tiger is using a forest that means it is a healthy forest.
14:01 Danny: Yes, that¿s true. Tigers mostly need in ___ here but in India they don¿t have large covered area¿tigers need prey and density for cover, shelter but depends in India they have mostly short grass¿so that¿s why in India mostly I¿d say easy to see tiger, it is easier to see the tigers¿You can feel it¿I would say that where they are what kind of environment¿but seeing tigers in India¿over there much easier.
15:23 Nice ambi ¿ water and birds, some whistling
16:02 lots of water, continues to 17:20 whispering, then more ambi to Danny whispering 17:30 20:08¿¿that was a deer.¿ 20:32
20:34 ¿ Speaking in Nepalese and sound of something like cutting, walking through grass, talking to 21:28
--Danny, Do you remember the first time you saw a tiger?
21:44 Very exciting I¿d never seen it, I was so scared (laughs)¿then suddenly I saw one from an elephant back ¿ oh my God -- I was so scared, the tiger I saw was huge -- was sitting there and staring at us (makes great growling noise) and then¿keep walking, but when they sit down and stare at you that means to get out 22:58
23:03 What¿s been closest encounter
23:16 Actually when I was a tracker¿
23:34 Here are the tracks, look, see going that way ¿ an old one though.
23:50 Danny: So I was tracking. I have lots of friends and we saw the drag mark and at that time¿We were following the drag of the animal and I was in front and some of my friends were at back. We said what¿s this¿ were dragged quite a long way was thinking it might have cubs, but we didn¿t know she had cubs and then suddenly heard something (snarl) and everybody stood there saying ¿tiger tiger¿s around here¿ then suddenly tiger came (snarl) but when people turn around I was last. I followed the rhino tracks and¿I know that tiger going to bite any moment now and tiger jumped and landed on grass and I landed on grass and tiger on top of me and then she left. she was just protecting her cubs then tiger left and then tiger got up and I ran different direction. then people got very nervous, and then suddenly we got out¿ pumping heart so badly. And next day I took elephants and tiger was still there. Still really aggressive. And next two days later took elephant there and they moved from one place to other place and we saw that there were tracks, there were three cubs. Spotted deer was killed¿____ had been eaten 27:13
That¿s a peacock, a peacock ahead of us.
Sound of going through brush, peacock ahead of us, speaking in Nepalese.
28:00 going through brush
Ask about hunting
28:16 Tiger is opportunity hunters, not like lion, the lion kill animals when they¿re hungry but tigers do not ambush but they¿tigers have to work hard to eat. They usually find weak or old ones, they usually target one, not going to gather two or three deer. Well, they think I¿m going to get this one and they get that one, but they don¿t ambush.
Talk about tiger that likes to hunt baby rhinos.
32:50 going through grass. (some talking in back) - 33: 47
33:48 How old is this elephant?
About 40 he was small when he came 4 or 6 feet tall
Do some have bad personalities? Not good for taking people on? No, they¿re all pretty good. Males sometimes get really tough, like when they get musk at that time we don¿t use it.
34:50 Danny whispers ¿Okay!¿ then a lot of grass and bug buzzing sounds, ¿Gtt!¿ (Then speaking in Nepalese.)
More through the grass.
37:22 bird calls -nice to 37:37 vg ambi birds again at 38:25. Really nice calls sounds almost like flute.
39:10 Danny: ¿Gtt!¿
39:50 Danny Whispering ¿Great horned Bill , three of them. See them!¿ ¿Gtt!¿ More good ambi of going through bush and birds.
41:39 speaking in Nepalese.
43:09 Where did you see the cubs? Danny Cubs are about 5-6 months old, not very big.
43:27 three cubs, but I just saw one, the cubs are so small.
44:53 Danny whispering ¿farther down¿
50:59 occasional back ground talking, but mostly good ambi -
57:18 - 57:45 Going through water, elephant sounds, vg
1:03:45 speaking in Nepalese and elephants making sounds - nice ¿Lots of tracks here did you see them? Going through water To 1:05:22 both tracks are fresh ones-both males and females.
1:23:54 Danny speaking in Nepalese very excitedly, More though forest 1:24:15
1:24:43 Whistling and birds call back. 1:24:56
Discover dead Cubs
Speaking in Nepalese yelling to someone. And then discover, 1:25:27 ¿Oh tiger cubs been killed,¿ elephant trumpets. Continues to talk to other people (asking questions¿)
1:28:30 people speaking hurriedly. 1:28:52 One, one dead one, I¿m sure it¿s probably a male that killed it, but I haven¿t seen any mark, I¿ve been here a couple days¿(how old is it?) It¿s probably six months old. (Is that one male or female?)¿Looks like a female, awww¿1:29:40
1:31:34 Speaking in Nepalese.
1:32:28 Danny: It is sad. He might be killed by¿(can¿t hear well) we¿ll find out tomorrow, we¿ll come and collect it and send it to¿headquarters
1:33:06 Why does a tiger kill a cub?
1:33:08 Sometimes a strange male kills the dominant male¿s cubs¿and the strange male kicked out dominant male and doesn¿t like it and the cubs from him he doesn¿t like it, and then if cubs stay with female and so if he kills cubs¿so he wants to produce only his cubs. This one looked like walking and just collapsed. It¿s not any¿we¿ll have to find out tomorrow. We want to see a live one ¿ but we saw a dead one¿
1:34:29 do you think it was a relative of the one you saw yesterday?
1:34:33 Danny: No, that one was west that female never come down here, probably the same age.
1:35:00 ¿probably same smell or diff smell than prob diff dead, so we¿ll find out tomorrow. Bring elephants¿
1:35:33 Danny: Good thing we came down here - at least we know what happened. I feel very sad that this happened because tigers are my favorite animals. Because I grew up with them, tracking their tracks.
1:36:40 spotted deer. We need more deer because the deer keep tiger alive. Bird calls.
1:37:12 Danny makes sound (to elephant?).
1:40:07 Danny did you hear that elephant screaming? More excited than humans¿
more walking through bush.
1:49:53 Danny how old are you --I¿m 45 years old, I¿ve been a guide about 20 years. With the elephant 10 years.
1:50:29 I did that kind of¿with transmitters when put collars on them.
1:50:50 they¿re handsome magnificent animals¿and they are hard to see they¿re not so common and also very few left in the world - probably 5-10 thousand left.
1:51:31 I¿m always excited when I see them and then growls. Must be upsetting to see what we see--
1:51:51 yes, yes
Not very common to come across a dead tiger.
1:52:39 we¿ll find out tomorrow could have been poisoned, sometimes poachers and they kill the whole family. People in old days use guns in old days tiger skin is more valuable, the tiger bone - they just want the bone.
How common is poaching?
1:53:52 We reward the people who come forward for all detailed information.
So people will tell you about poachers?
1:54:40 Yes, we have undercover people
2:00:36 I¿m sure there¿s a tiger there somewhere, they are very clever. They know how to¿sometimes you see tiger, there, there¿they will keep thinking going one way and they are going that way.
2:01:20 If you see tiger once, they probably see you a hundred times.