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Bruce A. McPherson  

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Sam Farr  

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Surfing; Nearshore pollution  

Environmental Recording 1:12:12 - 1:17:48 Play 1:12:12 - More
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NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
20 Sep 1997

    Geography
  • United States
    California
    Santa Cruz County
    Locality
  • Monterey Bay; Santa Cruz area
    Latitude/Longitude
  • 36.96333   -122.01917
    Habitats
  • Marine Shoreline
    Features
  • Beach
    Recording TimeCode
  • 15:54 - 1:04:24
    Geography
  • United States
    California
    Santa Cruz County
    Locality
  • north of Santa Cruz; Rocks above sea
    Latitude/Longitude
  • 36.96333   -122.01917
    Habitats
  • Marine Shoreline
    Recording TimeCode
  • 1:12:12 - 1:29:51
    Channels
  • Stereo
    Sampling Rate
  • 48kHz
    Bit Depth
  • 16-bit
    Recorders
    Microphones
    Accessories
    Equipment Note
  • Stereo=1; Decoded MS stereo; Spaced Omni Stereo

NPRINGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS -NMS
MONTEREY BAY NMS
DAT #2 continued

Interview with Sam Pfarr continued

36:42 The sanctuaries are practically unheard of in Congress. And yet you can see what we've created here, and it's very important, because sanctuaries with the research that is going to come out of here, what I mean the meeting ofland and water, which is the coastal zones .. The coastal zones of the United States are the most fragile because that's where the most people live, and ifwe just abuse them, we're going to be killing the soil and the vitality that's right under us. So we have to learn more about that, and you do that by focusing and putting money into .... Marine research is getting more money, certainly doesn't even come close to what outer space gets. Congress ought to be putting ocean research on at least an equal par with space research because the ocean is more important to us. [37:31]

AC: The ocean is more important to us than space?

SP: Absolutely, because it's on the planet, and most of this planet is covered by ocean waters. And the planet still lives off the ocean, and what we don't know how to deal with we dump in the ocean, and we can't continue to do that, because we're going to be killing the weather, the air, and the fish stocks we live off of. 37:52

AC: Compared to what we spend on space research, what do we spend on marine sanctuaries?

SP: We spend a total of $12 million. Compared to space -billions .

AC: When you talk to your fellow members of Congress, what do they say?

SP: I'm on the oceans committee, which is chaired by Jim Saxton from New Jersey ..... bipartisan ... interest in promoting the ocean agenda, and we're calling upon -and I've led the effort -the President to next year, the International Year of the Ocean, to call for a White House Conference on the Oceans. We think that without understanding global environmental problems which are demonstrated in the
oceans, and right now you're having a phenomenon, EI Nino ...... don't need to wear wetsuits .... warm water fish .... understand that by bringing countries of the world a sense of how important the oceans are. Just as important as clean water, clear air.

AC: .......going to Florida, people there .... telling them that with sanctuary make it so expensive ... bunch of can'ts

SP: ....."It's a designer law, design itfrom the bottom up. That's not happening here. No complaints here. There were some concerns .... .I think the other side of the coin .... businessmen here advertise the sanctuary .... the private sector thinks it's an asset for selling their homes .... even have a used car lot here in Santa Cruz that advertises used cars come here because we're next to the sanctuary. so I think that when you have that private sector buy in who think it furthers their property values ... you know have something working for us. [40:56] ***These sanctuaries are going to be for our great grandchildren for generations to come, when people will have better access to the oceans...they will look back and thank us because we have created the Yosemites and the Yellowstones ofthe sea. [41:16]

AMBIENCE for Sam Pfarr -MS
41:44 -44:29

Another interview with a man who supports sanctuary -though he doesn't even surf or go in the water from Michigan.
1:08:59

Another interview re. sanctuary meaning and support. hope area be protected from oil wells -teach scuba diving. I think people here grow up on ocean -surfers, divers, scuba divers, free divers, wind surfers. People spend lives in ocean. Feel connected. In Florida more transient community, and tourism plays a bigger role. Here becomes part of their life. [1:10:09] [watch music behind because there's no matching ambi.

Ambience: [spaced omnis]

* Ambi -Surf sounds [north of Santa Cruz on rocks above sea] 1:12:00 -1:15:14

**Ambi -Surf sounds Big surf -same place -different perspective 1:15:15 -1:17:54

1:18:43 -1:21:46 [MS] Interview with Richard Schmidt -surfing for 28 years -teaches surfing.

Ambience [spaced omnis] Nice surf after Richard Schmidt interview -right below Cliff Drive where surfers surf. 1:22:00 -1:23:00

Ambience More surf -1 :23 :45 Closer perspective -bigger sound [watch for low rumble of car traffic]
...to end

1:30:00 END

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