NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
7 Jun 1997
- United States
Stereo=1; Decoded MS stereo
NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS
Gray's Reef NMS Log
Interview with Bruce Cowden
1:36 Bruce Cowden ID
3:39 -Bruce -talking about looking for bones
3:46 -I take every opportunity when I am at the bottom whatever I am doing to look around and see what is there. Surprisingly enough something comes up. Like a couple of years ago we were doing some photographic work, and while I was following the camera man around I was kind of tending them -while I was taking care of those guys I was looking for bones and it just so happens that we picked up a few and it sparked a little bit of interest with the professor, Erv.
CJ -well, you make it sound very easy -you picked up a couple of bones, but when you look at the size of these bones, they are really small, and you are 60 feet down in Gray's Reef -how do you see them. What are you looking for?
Bruce -well, you look for odd shapes that kind of don1t belong. Something more biological rather than geological and it is kind of an id process. You kind of focus on looking for the odd member in the group. Kind of like you are standing in the field and you are looking for 4 leaf clovers in a clover patch -there is maybe one out of a thousand in there. But if you focus your attention towards 4 leaves rather than 3 it just pops out at you. That is what makes it easy for me I guess. I am focused that way.
CJ -have you done this in any other place than Gray's Reef?
Bruce -yes. All over.
6:08 -Bruce talks about some interesting ones he has found in South Carolina in rivers~
10:22 CJ -what did you find on Gray's Reef?
Bruce -the horse tooth was one of the first ones I found and then there was lots of broken piece -might be leg bones or rib bones and stuff like that. And the other one was a buffalo. The bottom side of a buffalo leg. It was kind of different from the other ones bc the other have the black looking material or this one was brown. And this one was encrusted with different kinds of growth so it was pretty well hidden. It was hard to see. I happened over a couple of times and then I checked it out a little closer and then it had the perfect shape of a bone. It was almost too good. Bc I am usually looking for fragments and stuff like that and then when you find one that is pretty much whole. It was very exciting.
11:31 CJ -You are finding something that is 12,000 yrs old or maybe even older -maybe something that was killed by early man -and that must be pretty exciting.
Bruce -oh yeah. Absolutely. My main concentration on my hunt would be to try to find a human counter part for that particular era and maybe change history a little bit if you bring up something that old.
CJ -how would that change history?
12:05 Bruce -
16:47 Bruce -I think I put as much passion into looking for artifacts and fossils as somebody who is looking for gold blooms.
CJ -when did you get into this?
Bruce: I have always been into it -ever since I was a little kid. I just have always had a fascination for digging around and stuff. When I moved to GA in the 60s we lived in an area that was close to a famous Civil War battle. So I would spend everyday digging and looking for musket balls, or buttons ~just stuff. Any antiquity interest me.
CJ -that do other divers say when you say I go down there and I look for bones. Are they surprised by this?
17:37 Bruce: I think your average sport diver would be