Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary
Topside reef ambi, Water lapping
NPR/NGS Radio Expeditions
24 Sep 1997
- Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary; Looe Key Research Area
- 24.57083 -81.3875
- 1:08 - 39:07
- Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary; Looe Key Existing Management Area
- 24.5425 -81.41667
- 45:17 - 1:57:41
Stereo=1; Spaced Omnis and Decoded MS Stereo
NPR/NGS RADIO EXPEDITIONS
FLORIDA KEYS NMS
DAT # 3
BC = Billy Causey
AC = Alex Chadwick
ms, sept. 24th going out with BC @1:00 faint motor, sound okay, not great talking about "team ocean"
4:28 AC: just tell us how far were going to go out this morning.
4:32 BC: we're going to be heading out to the looe key existing nms .. .it's about 11 miles from here ... we have to head out at a little bit of an angle ... sound ofmotor building up 4:40-6:09 (Sound of motor: g)
6:09 BC: as we slow down here you can see the water is moving past the old bridge ... the tide right now is ebbing going out heading out towards the ocean from the gulf and from florida bay ... what happens by the end of the year more water has flowed out of the gulf of mexico ...
6:40 BC: than what has come in so its real critical that we're looking upstream at what's happening in the south florida ecosystem ...
more boat motor, water. ..
9:12 BC: this buoy is marking the ne comer of Looe key ... (sound okay, coming from only 1 earphone?) ... (water in bg, faint motor)-voice not v good
10:05 BC: only permanent scientists can come in this area (voice over radio ... )
10:41 BC: we have another research only area down close near western sambo.
11 :28 BC: the EPA and the state of FL have dev a water quality protection program ... additionally we got funding from ...
talking about research and funding-sound quality nvg ...
12:30 water, boat motor ...
12:50 BC: talking about mooring buoy, reef, ... these reefs along here what's really important is that they're sort of like our sentinels in the coral reef environment they have put up with more changes, more adverse conditions than the reefs out on the reef rack ...
motor boat humming motor drowning out voice ... talking about harvesting
15:12 BC: we also have the reef flat and the reef flat is where we are going to go today and do some snorkeling ... a lot of sea grass comm ... tropical marine fish-
15:43 BC: there are two commercial dive boats out here there. BC: voice faint.
17:02 BC: motor faint, ifyou look over in the distance you see the waves cresting and breaking
11 miles off-shore, deep water? One-two feet deep .
18:25 AC: are we going to tie up to a float here? Yes, we're going to snorkel
around a little bit ... BC: talking radio in bg.
19:44 BC: most recreational fisherman who know what they're doing don't fish in this area ...
20:10 BC: these waves are about three ft. high ... I'm going to move round to the other side we're starting to get some heavy chop ...
bg talking, boat motor, radio interruptions. Securing boat sounds of securing boat (faint)
26:06 BC: there you go--great!
motor off, sound faint
BC: we're out at looe key
27:02 AC: tell me what's happening out along here
27:05 BC: the reefs at looe key are under the influence ofvarious forms of pollution and direct impacts oftoo much use in some instances what we're doing in the sanctuary to address those is to address the water quality .. .look at diver impact, overharvesting impact ...
27:48 AC: so as you .. .look ahead, what is yr responsibility, what is it you are going to try to do for the FL keys nms ...
heightening public's awareness of this sp place that we call a sanctuary ...
28:31 BC: one of our gr challenges by implementing the management that has taken us six years to accomplish is act living up to the public's expectation ... (sound very bad, faint)
29: 11 talking about impacts ....
AC: how long does it take to see the impact of what you are doing?
A couple of years-talks about study done on fish harvesting and effects on populations.
30:32 AC: that seems amazingly fast to me
30:50 BC: we have to realize that the marine env. is pretty darn resilient you know coral reefs have been around for four hundred million years and a lot of these tropical reef fish have been around ... ifyou provide them with the right habitat ...
31:45 cj what's it like being a sanctuary superintendent?
31:57 BC: one of the gr challenges is living up to the expectations of the comm ... to do what they expect us to do, we do have a lot of uses if you put your toe in the FL keys you are in the sanctuary. We have a tremendous use and in the sanctuary we have various types of activity and what we try to do is listen to the public as much as possible to balance those uses with the environmental protection again our main management tools are education and outreach and our challenge is to reach every household in the florida keys with the messages is their sanctuary and its a very sp place for their future generations...
AC: have you lost friendships over the sanctuary ...
BC: being in the position I'm in you're not going to always have everyone liking or supporting you, or your actions but I do have a lot of comm fishing friends a lot. A lot of the comm fisherman I think would rather have me than maybe someone else poss someone out of washington ... even when I was hung in effigy back in 1991 one of my very good friends was proud that he stuffed the effigy, he was the one that helped draw the face on it which looked very much like me I didn't take that personally, and I think that someone in my posistion cannot take these things personally you have to look past the personal issues and you have to realize that they are speaking from their hearts as much as I hope they realize that I am speaking from my heart about these problems and what we need to do together we just can't let things continue to go the way they've been going .
AC: talking about public v private rights ...
34:38 AC: I don't know how you balance that I don't know how you kind of strike a bargain with people so that they appreciate what's happening so that they say okay I'll give up some of my private rights and I can see the public good
35:55 BC: I think the critical way to achieve that is that to listen to the public and if you're going to involve them in helping to develop them in helping dev a plan really show that you have listened to them you have those that are so far out ... but there is a huge majority of the public in-between many of which have not made up their minds ... they are the ones that will carry that message back to other parts of the country. Our job is to listen to the public and then in respond in such a way that we have listened the management plan that we have out on the table ... they approved a majority of what is in that management plan including marine zoning ... so we try to listen ev step of the way and I think it is critical that you give the public signals that you are listening ...
*anecdote about calling couple whose commentary on sanctuary management appeared in florida paper.
36:54 BC: I think its something that I owe to the public is to explain to them why we're taking the actions we're doing and that we genuinely want to hear from them.
37:10 AC: you have a philosophy of working together with other agencies ... there is very heavy state involvement ... is there some possibility that the state has interests that ... are going to hurt the keys if the state admits to liability that its water program in the everglades is causing problems in the keys what's going to happen there ...
talking about mistrust in fed. State govt.
38:15 BC: we have the best scientists in south florida looking at all the problems that the water quality impacts have had ... the state is not trying to hide from any actions
they've taken they've come up front and admitted that the activities from the sugar industry, were a result from their activities ... that has been settled we need to get past that
38:52 BC: I think its going to take time to build the trust in the comm that we are in fact working in partnership and that we all have the interests of this v sp resource in mind ...
water, ambi good but faint, bg talking, splashing ... moving about in water
44:27 yell and splash (AC?) bg talking ... squeaky ambi (g)
45:14 spaced omnis, surf breaking off edge of looe reef. Water lapping, splashing to end of DAT
51:19 BC: swimming by
51:30 ambi of snorkeling, squeaking @53:00 talking in bg surf, water sounds
1:04:26 talking in bg
1:08:50 more surf, a bit more clear
1:11:19 quieter water sounds, voices in bg
1:33:50 voices in bg
1:35:11 spaced omnis interaction with? sound ofmotor
1:36:45 BC: greeting some people on boat (g) giving them info, etc., telling them it's no take
1:38:00 ambi water lapping ... ms walking up beach for alex's promos., crashing waves (g)
1:40:25 water is warm,
1:41:03 This is alex chadwick coming up on ME a radio expedition to the marine nat sanctuary in the florida keys, join us
1:41:48 This is alex chadwick Monday on morning edition a radio ex. To this place the florida keys national marine sanctuary join us Monday on ME
1:42:24 This is AC:, Monday on ME a radio expedition to this place (splash) the national marine sanctuary in the florida keys that's Monday on NPR's ME.
1:42:54 This is AC neck deep in our next radio expedition from the NGS and NPR the frontiers in the sea ... 1:43:12 this one in florida's nms, this one in the flmms, join us for our next radio expedition * * *
1:44:35 with the furry beast on ms, might want to tweak up high end
1:44:43 this is AC: neck deep ... we're exploring frontiers ...
1:45:55 hi this is AC: (spitting and bobbing in water) ...
1:46:32 ... alex drowning ...
1:47:49 hi this AC: just surfacing
1:48:59 hi this is AC: just surfacing ... *** 1 :49:28 I'm going back down for a look, I'm going down to see what's there, you come too ... * * *
1:50:04 Monday on npr's ME...
1:51:32 ms, beach ambi, surf...
1:58:00 good surf to end.