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Subject 1: (Interview). Subtitle: Jeremy Jackson. Timecode In: 00:00:04. Timecode out: 00:09:51. Notes: Extinction events, Time and Evolution. Subject 2: (Sound Effects). Subtitle: Running water. Timecode In: 00:09:52. Timecode out: 00:14:12. Subject 3: (Environmental Recording). Subtitle: Pacific Ocean surf ambi. Timecode In: 00:14:47. Timecode out: 00:18:17. Subject 4: (Environmental Recording). Subtitle: City ambi. Timecode In: 00:18:29. Timecode out: 00:26:11. Habitat: ; Ocean; Urban, ; ; Equipment Notes: Stereo=1; Decoded MS stereo; Sennheiser MKH40 Cardioid Mid Mic and MKH30 Bidirectional Side Mic. PANAMA DAT # 9 March 28, 1995 LOG: @ THE STRI LAB WITH JEREMY JACKSON, END OF INTERVIEW ac: i believe something like that is true for many people who investigate things, possibly for the scientists at STRI. um, but when you go back in your study, and you find an event like the isthmus of Panama coming up, and you find that biodiversity is, after a million years, dealt a catastrophic blow and then you subsequently find that in the overall balance of biodiversity it's not a catastrophic blow, that life responds. isn't the lesson from that -it doesn't really matter what we do because life endures. life goes on. and so the people who say you know, the hell with the environment, just -we really are not creating much of an effect ¬let's just go on do what you want to do and the heck with it. do your studies in some way support that conclusion? 1:22 jj: no. what they do support is that certainly change is not new to people. environments have always changed. organisms have always changed in response to those changes. nothing is permanent in the pattern of life on earth, just as nothing is permanent in anything else. but the reason the answer is no is that even the geological instant of that turnover for example, if it were only 200,000 years or even less, is an extraordinary long time in terms of the numbers of generations of organisms that were effected by that change, or that experienced that event. and therefore, 2:08 -> one can argue that not only is there time for destruction but there is also time for creation and that the reason diversity did not decline during that turnover, or even if it did decline, didn't decline nearly as much as it would of based only on the amount of extinction, is that clearly some how there was sufficient time for new species to evolve. in other words, a turnover event is a destructive and a creative aspect of evolution -both combined. and it's hard to imagine that changes in environments of equal magnitudes or perhaps of even greater magnitude effected in only a decade or even a century or two centuries could even begin to allow the time for the creative aspect of evolution; the origin of new taxa. that's -i can't imagine the most rabid punctuated evolutionist proposing for a second that entire faunas could be created in two hundred years. so what's different about human environmental disturbance as opposed to natural environment disturbance, at least in my mind, is the fact that it is so extraordinarily rapid by the standards of geological time that there is almost certainly no time for organisms to respond in a creative way. and so what you get is the destruction with out the origin of new species to take their place. ok? ............ (3:55 with some blank) OTHER SOUNDS TO RECORD? MAYBE THE SOUND OF INPUTTING INFO INTO THE DATABASE 4:24 looking for other sounds -jj: we could do a game ...remember how i was telling you bout how the methods haven't changed -you still go for long walks, you still collect bags of dirt, you still pass 'em through sieves, what's different is this -in all of biodiversity research really, what's new is that -not the fancy ships and all of the ships and all of the stuff that they will try and blow you mind away with -it's the data information processing. the ... (Notes truncated)
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- 1 Mar 2005 - Ben Brotman
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- 1 Mar 2005 - Ben Brotman
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- 1 Mar 2005 - Ben Brotman